I lie to my children when I say that the TV needs to recharge after their morning shows. A way to divert their attention elsewhere, but not out of malice.

Probably media organizations pushing a pro war message dont believe that theyre being malicious either.

So the news organizations aren't malicious, but simply treating their viewers as children when they are lying to them to divert their attention.

Certainly makes me feel warm and fuzzy that our news orgs are looking out for us! :)

You're comparing this to the news media lying about things like the Iraq War that kill hundreds of thousands of people and cost trillions of dollars.

Do you not understand how horrifying a comparison this is?

It is pretty funny to see this reply from you. You are guilty here of the exact thing you were criticizing in your last comment. It is "Perhaps the most wooden way to interpret what [I'm] saying".

I never described "all lying as malicious". I said it "implies maliciousness" and you said it "often is, malicious". I don't see a disagreement here.

> It is pretty funny to see this reply from you.

:). My apologies, I've misread what you wrote.

I think the tension we're walking here is to keep one hand grounded in the fact that words can have a discrete, objective meaning *while also* allowing for individual freedom of expression. Modernity vs unhinged relativism.

Lying by omission is still lying.