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Re:Half of Americans now believe that news organizations del... by Retric on Thursday February 16, 2023 @11:27AM (#34820818)
The most valuable asset of a new organization is trust, and they are often bought as propaganda platforms.

But propaganda is tricky you need people to keep paying attention which means the most overt spin is to be avoided. Done well you shift the narrative over decades not just swap positions on day one. Fox News is the most well known US example, but you don’t want to just preach to people who already believe your message.

Thus you want to control the widest possible selection of media.

Re:Half of Americans now believe that news organizations del... by Spooky23 on Thursday February 16, 2023 @11:35AM (#34820958)
The Fox horizontal integration is brilliant. They pull in people with sports and other complimentary content and cross-sell the profitable propaganda.

The New York Post is a great example. It was the sports and bookie newspaper - they’d publish Vegas odds and have tabloid news. They slowly transformed into a giant editorial paper and funnel into the broader Fox ecosystem.

They have a great, free product. I need to pay to read The NY Times, but Fox is free and the sponsors are all low quality high margin stuff. Radio is prostate pills, TV is old people drugs and gold, etc.

Re:Half of Americans now believe that news organizations del... by rbanffy on Thursday February 16, 2023 @02:22PM (#34824289)
The most amazing part of it is that even Fox doesn't call itself a news outlet but entertainment. They sell rage and self-validation.
Re:Half of Americans now believe that news organizations del... by autoexec on Thursday February 16, 2023 @03:16PM (#34825272)
Fox calls itself "Fox News". Only when they're pressed and presented with evidence that they're liars will they hide behind "That's okay, this is all just entertainment!" excuses. Their viewers don't think they're watching made up stories for entertainment. They're convinced that Fox/OAN are the only news agencies that tell the truth.
Re:Half of Americans now believe that news organizations del... by colluphid on Thursday February 16, 2023 @04:52PM (#34826950)
sed 's/fox/CNN/Ig'
Re:Half of Americans now believe that news organizations del... by autoexec on Thursday February 16, 2023 @06:21PM (#34828160)
CNN isn't good, but it's not even close to being equivalent. I doubt there's a single news org that doesn't let their bias slip from time to time, but let's not pretend that makes them all the same or that there aren't some much much worse than others.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/one-america-news-network/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/left/cnn-bias/

Re:Half of Americans now believe that news organizations del... by rbanffy on Thursday February 16, 2023 @06:26PM (#34828223)
I’ve seen this false equivalency being regurgitated over and over whenever someone points out that Fox News is actually a far-right propaganda outlet.
Re:Half of Americans now believe that news organizations del... by pohl on Friday February 17, 2023 @09:26AM (#34834990)
That’s part of the mechanism to bolster RW propaganda: pay no attention to this serial killer over here, because the person next to him double parks.
Re:Half of Americans now believe that news organizations del... by Spooky23 on Thursday February 16, 2023 @06:34PM (#34828331)
I’m not a fan of CNN, but they do a better job at distinguishing the difference between news and editorial.

The Fox issue is they conflate the two. I used to watch alot of TV news and the actual news content was pretty good on Fox on national issues, but their affiliates were usually pretty awful.

The news product produced by the networks until circa 1999 were a superior product in every way. Cable outlets have always danced with these issues as a TV channel that says the same thing all day gets boring.

Re:Half of Americans now believe that news organizations del... by rbanffy on Thursday February 16, 2023 @07:20PM (#34828807)
> but they do a better job

The Onion does a better job than Fox.

Re:Half of Americans now believe that news organizations del... by thechao on Friday February 17, 2023 @09:30AM (#34835046)
"The Onion wins Pulitzer; expresses confusion: editor says 'we were just drinking at the pub and started making shit up; we didn't know it was real!'"