Homebrew 4.0.0 - Hackdot

Re:Homebrew 4.0.0 by pancrufty on Thursday February 16, 2023 @10:49AM (#34820218)

Opt-in analytics are useless, unless a large part of your userbase just clicks through the entire wizard without thinking; there’s little overlap with Homebrew’s userbase

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Re:Homebrew 4.0.0 by mola on Thursday February 16, 2023 @11:10AM (#34820535)

Ok, so don't do analytics.

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Re:Homebrew 4.0.0 by throwaway5959 on Thursday February 16, 2023 @11:24AM (#34820765)

Yes, hardware2win, have a worse product. Not everything needs to be phoning home all the time.

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Re:Homebrew 4.0.0 by hardware2win on Thursday February 16, 2023 @11:21AM (#34820718)

Then have worse product for the users?

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Re:Homebrew 4.0.0 by danieldk on Thursday February 16, 2023 @11:27AM (#34820811)

Homebrew was fine before they started collecting analytics. There are plenty of great package managers outside the macOS ecosystem that don't use analytics.

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Re:Homebrew 4.0.0 by hardware2win on Thursday February 16, 2023 @11:28AM (#34820828)

So, just because you werent affected then no one was?

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Re:Homebrew 4.0.0 by closewith on Thursday February 16, 2023 @11:28AM (#34820823)

Yes, you don't get to decide to violate your users' rights and surveil them because you think it will improve your product.

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Re:Homebrew 4.0.0 by hardware2win on Thursday February 16, 2023 @11:30AM (#34820869)

1 it is their choice what soft they use, isnt it? Its not like chromium on android being pushed on you

2 there is "reasonable" / "good faith" data that in my opinion can be sent e.g crash log, stats like e.g package popularity etc.

You just create drama over nothing.

Ive used data like this to improve my soft countless times and there is nothing shady at all, everything is about what you collect.

Theres difference between keylogger or stealing nudes and tech data

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Re:Homebrew 4.0.0 by drivers99 on Thursday February 16, 2023 @11:52AM (#34821255)

> it is their choice what soft they use, isnt it

Yes. More evidence for an observation I've been having that ultimately the software is always about what the creator of the software wants, and not the user. I'm working on moving to running only my own software for that reason.

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Re:Homebrew 4.0.0 by stalfosknight on Thursday February 16, 2023 @12:01PM (#34821403)

Not my problem. They don't have a right to spy on users.

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Re:Homebrew 4.0.0 by sigzero on Thursday February 16, 2023 @12:21PM (#34821793)

Stop it. They are not spying on users.

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Re:Homebrew 4.0.0 by stalfosknight on Friday February 17, 2023 @11:15AM (#34836480)

Anytime "analytics" are opt-out instead of opt-in is spying in my book.

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Re:Homebrew 4.0.0 by _ph_ on Thursday February 16, 2023 @12:23PM (#34821815)

"The alternative is useless" is not a valid legal defense.

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