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Re:Unimpeded Permeation of Water Through Helium-Leak–Tight G... by netr0ute on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @08:35PM (#34813790)
> No, not possible in the regular sense of the world.

How do you know that?

Re:Unimpeded Permeation of Water Through Helium-Leak–Tight G... by twawaaay on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @08:51PM (#34813914)
Because osmotic pressure is a result of thermodynamics.
Re:Unimpeded Permeation of Water Through Helium-Leak–Tight G... by wswope on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @09:40PM (#34814289)
Enthalpy of solution + first law of thermodynamics.

Salt dissolved in water is in a very "stable", low-energy state, and getting it out necessarily requires a lot of energy input.

Re:Unimpeded Permeation of Water Through Helium-Leak–Tight G... by klodolph on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @11:47PM (#34815158)
Imagine two columns of water in a single U-shaped pipe, with a selectively permeable membrane at the bottom. One column contains salt water. The columns will have unequal levels, because of the osmotic pressure.

If you had a different type of membrane that had a different pressure, you could swap it out and see the water level change.

Repeatedly swapping the two membranes would allow you to pump water up the column, and you could siphon off this energy to create a perpetual motion machine, with some extra energy to spare.

Re:Unimpeded Permeation of Water Through Helium-Leak–Tight G... by twawaaay on Thursday February 16, 2023 @08:43AM (#34818453)
Thanks. That's very good example I have not thought of.