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Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by midoridensha on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @08:08PM (#34813544)
Is a Chromebook a "desktop", or "mobility"? I have a hard time thinking of a Chromebook as a "desktop" PC.

Honestly, I think the research firm's divisions are crap. WTF is "mobility" anyway? Why would this not include laptops?

Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by danans on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @10:36PM (#34814671)
> I have a hard time thinking of a Chromebook as a "desktop" PC.

A Chromebox is a desktop PC. And ChromeOS devices can run a full Debian Linux distro in a VM. What's not desktop about that?

Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by midoridensha on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @11:26PM (#34815010)
Smartphones can run a full Debian Linux distro in a VM too, but that doesn't make them desktop PCs.
Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by danans on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @11:31PM (#34815041)
Ok. It sits on a desktop, has an external monitor and keyboard and mouse, and let's you run general purpose computing tasks, like compiling a C++ program. You can even plug in a USB printer and scanner. You can get them with 16G of RAM and i7 CPUs. You can put them in dev mode, wipe the OS, and install any Linux distro of your liking. Is that a desktop computer?

Or is the definition of desktop computer that it can, say, run Adobe Photoshop natively?

Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by cvuls on Thursday February 16, 2023 @12:34AM (#34815454)
Phones can do most of the things you listed.

So a "desktop PC" isn't about its feature set or where you might put it, instead it is a form factor.

Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by sangnoir on Thursday February 16, 2023 @01:49AM (#34815821)
NUCs, Mac Studios and Chromeboxes all have the same form factor. I believe there are All-in-one desktop Chromeboxes as well. The exclusion of desktops running ChromeOS from the desktop category is weird - especially considering they are capable of running Debian Bullseye VMs out of the box (x64 or ARM)
Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by midoridensha on Thursday February 16, 2023 @02:48AM (#34816117)
>Or is the definition of desktop computer that it can, say, run Adobe Photoshop natively?

My point is that the Chromebook is a mobile device: it's tiny and easy to carry around. So why is it not in the "mobility" category? And for that matter, why is every laptop computer not in this category? When did "mobile" somehow become equal to "something you can carry in one hand while also operating it"? The entire point of laptops was that they're mobile. These days, not that many people use "desktop PCs", outside of corporate offices, they use "mobile devices" (i.e. laptops).

And where do tablets fall? You can prop them up on a desk and attach a keyboard, and they act just like a laptop (you can also connect external screens etc.).

As I said before, their categories are stupid.

Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by danans on Thursday February 16, 2023 @10:14AM (#34819718)
Here is a ChromeOS computer, that by your definition, is a "desktop":

https://www.hp.com/us-en/chrome/chromebase-all-in-one-deskto...

To the original point, it sleeps perfectly.

Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by danans on Thursday February 16, 2023 @01:07PM (#34822756)
Oops, the bit about it sleeping perfectly was context leakage from another thread ;)
Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by pclmulqdq on Thursday February 16, 2023 @10:18AM (#34819773)
Chromebooks and other laptops would be in the "mobility" category. I'm pretty sure smartphones aren't counted anywhere, although things like the ipad may count in "mobility" as well.