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Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by baremetal on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @08:00PM (#34813465)
Direct democracy with full vote transparency for every voter.
Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by whatshisface on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @08:27PM (#34813716)
I don't what you mean by vote transparency, but I definitely do not want to be accountable to my boss for voting against his political opinions.
Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by ianai on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @08:37PM (#34813807)
Point is, whatever option is agreeable wouldn’t require the kind of build out to get us here-wiring up the internet, researching and scaling smartphone tech, etc. direct democracy seems like a pretty obvious max for logistical problems to governance and modern tech would make it possible. So anything below it possible too.
Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by whatshisface on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @08:56PM (#34813951)
They have direct democracy in Switzerland and they don't need the internet for that.
Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by barbazoo on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @09:32PM (#34814232)
> Popular votes can be held up to four times a year.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/07/switzerland-direct-de...

At some point you need technology, otherwise it would just get too expensive.

Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by basementcat on Thursday February 16, 2023 @12:54AM (#34815566)
Many states in the USA have had ballot propositions for over one hundred years.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initiatives_and_referendums_...

Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by snovv_crash on Thursday February 16, 2023 @01:43AM (#34815791)
Yes but not once every 4 months. People keeping a check on the actions of their representatives needs to happen more than once per election cycle otherwise once the politician gets in they just do whatever they want.
Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by WalterBright on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @08:20PM (#34813648)
That's what the USSR had. Didn't work so well. A secret ballot is a major requirement for democracy.
Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by barbazoo on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @09:42PM (#34814300)
There was one option on the ballot, I think that was more the problem. Having choice and not having someone with a gun escort you to the ballot box are bigger requirements. If there were no repercussions, voting could totally be open, don't you think?
Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by WalterBright on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @11:47PM (#34815154)
Do you really want the thug in power to know you didn't vote for him?
Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by barbazoo on Thursday February 16, 2023 @12:11PM (#34821600)
That's exactly my point, it's a problem because there is a "thug in power". That's the problem, not open voting.
Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by WalterBright on Thursday February 16, 2023 @01:07PM (#34822751)
Even the nicest people become thugs when in power. Power corrupts.
Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by dette on Thursday February 16, 2023 @01:43PM (#34823554)
Most, perhaps yes! But not always. You seem to often have so binary thoughts xD

Do you work with programming or something?

Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by barbazoo on Thursday February 16, 2023 @02:34PM (#34824497)
I don't know, in my experience most governments aren't run by "thugs" but YMMV.
Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by WalterBright on Thursday February 16, 2023 @04:03PM (#34826097)
The only reason for open ballots is to hold individuals "accountable" for their votes.
Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by suddenclarity on Thursday February 16, 2023 @03:19AM (#34816300)
There will always be repercussions. Sweden have been doing public voting for decades by forcing you to pick the ballot out in the open, before going into a booth and putting the public ballot into an envelope. Your family, friends and the whole neighborhood will know whomever voted for the wrong party and will treat you thereafter.

EU and election authorities have demanded change to make it private but the previously ruling party didn't want to. Now we got a new government a few months ago and this was one of their first tasks, so it might be changed in time for the election in 2026.

Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by barbazoo on Thursday February 16, 2023 @12:13PM (#34821640)
> There will always be repercussions.

> Your family, friends and the whole neighborhood will know whomever voted for the wrong party and will treat you thereafter.

"Repercussions" from family or neighbours, sure, but not from whoever has the monopoly on violence. I haven't heard of the Swedish government going after people that "voted wrong".

Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by moremetadata on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @10:13PM (#34814524)
Why do you feel the need to hand over your decision making to someone else?

I've seen no evidence that the democracy model employed across large parts of the western world and elsewhere, is anything other than criminal. Its like watching a punch and judy show where the public get to chose their puppets, but the shadowy puppeteers are lurking in the background, mainly wearing or have worn fancy dress.

Re:The hacking and disinformation team meddling in elections by baremetal on Thursday February 16, 2023 @07:47PM (#34829099)
what do you suggest?