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Re:Speech is violence? Not if we want a liberal, intellectua... by fallingfrog on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @05:17PM (#34811549)
Amazing how quickly people will pivot to "actually, it's ok to censor campus professors" as soon as the censored ideas are ones they don't like.
Re:Speech is violence? Not if we want a liberal, intellectua... by pclmulqdq on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @05:27PM (#34811672)
It's amazing how quickly people will pivot to "censorship of professors" when they are talking about laws that control the curriculum of elementary schools.

I don't dislike professors or teachers at state schools, but I understand that they work in an institution that effectively does not offer academic freedom. If you are a professor, you can work at any other institution in the country, other than the 50-100 or so that are run by states, and you will have all the academic freedom you want. If this country goes to a major war, a large number of those professors are likely going to be told to work on something war-related, because they are agents of the state.

If you are a teacher, who was actually targeted by the education control bills in FL, you arguably don't have enough training to have really have earned academic freedom. Until about 5 minutes ago, nobody argued that they did have academic freedom. Curricula are there for a reason.

Re:Speech is violence? Not if we want a liberal, intellectua... by rootusrootus on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @05:45PM (#34811931)
> the 50-100 or so that are run by states

FWIW, I think you're off by an order of magnitude, more or less.