Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

Re:Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first” by pixl97 on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @01:05PM (#34807963)

I think the issue here is ChatGPT is behaving like a child that was not taught to say "I don't know". I don't know is a learned behavior and not all people do this. Like on sales calls where someone's trying to push a product I've seen the salepeople confabulate bullshit rather than simply saying "I can find out for you, let me write that down".

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Re:Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first” by rustyminnow on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @02:24PM (#34809210)

Well, I think you are right - ChatGPT should learn to say "I don't know". Keep in mind that generating BS is also a learned behavior. The salesperson probably learned that it is a technique that can help make sales.

The key IMO is that it's easier to tell when a human is doing it than when ChatGPT is doing it.

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Re:Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first” by danaris on Thursday February 16, 2023 @11:26AM (#34820795)

The deeper issue is that ChatGPT cannot accurately determine whether it "knows" something or not.

If its training data includes rants by flat-earthers, then it may "know" that the earth is flat (in addition to "knowing" that it is round).

ChatGPT does not have a single, consistent model of the world. It has a bulk of training data that may be ample in one area, deficient in another, and strongly self-contradictory in a third.

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Re:Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first” by danans on Thursday February 16, 2023 @12:33PM (#34822001)

> I think the issue here is ChatGPT is behaving like a child that was not taught to say "I don't know". I don't know is a learned behavior and not all people do this.

Even in humans, this "pretending to know" type of bullshit - however irritating and trust destroying - is motivated to a large extent by an underlying insecurity about appearing unknowledgeable. Unless the bullshitter is also some kind of sociopath - that insecurity is at least genuinely felt. Being aware of that is what can allow us to feel empathy for people bullshitting even when we know they are doing it (like the salespeople from the play Glengarry Glen Ross).

Can we really say that ChatGPT is motivated by anything like that sort of insecurity? I don't think so. It's just compelled to fill in bytes, with extremely erroneous information if needed (try asking it for driving directions). If we are going to draw analogies to human behavior (a dubious thing, but oh well), its traits seem more sociopathic to me.

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