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Re: by Aaargh20318 on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @11:13AM (#34805817)
> $99/yr is a ridiculous sum for the "privilege" of publishing in Apple's walled garden

It’s a token amount, just enough to prevent spammers from creating thousands of accounts. It’s $99 for your entire organization for a year. Go check what Microsoft charges for a Visual Studio license per seat, per year.

$99 doesn’t even buy you 1 hour of a developer’s time. Even if you develop apps a a hobby, this is not a large amount of money. Few hobbies are a cheap as this.

Re: by coliveira on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @11:28AM (#34806098)
> It’s $99 for your entire organization for a year.

This seems reasonable when you look from the point of view of a corporation. But hobbyists are single individuals, not corporations. So this basically makes development a privilege for corporations or for people in the first world for whom $99 is nothing.

Re: by dachryn on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @11:47AM (#34806563)
there are education discount programs for students etc..
Re: by aksss on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @11:49AM (#34806622)
Visual Studio Community Edition is free and quite capable for the individual hobby developer, same with VSC. Compared to developing for iPhone, which requires me to still have macOS (and legally Mac hardware) at my disposal somewhere to even get the app built completely, right? That would be the proper comparison between their approach to enabling developers on the tooling side, not the App Store fee. What’s the barrier to entry for the Windows App Store? I think it’s like $25 bucks and $99 for an org, or something very similar.

Obviously the glaring difference is that you can side load apps on Windows without using the app store at all. The day that becomes a serious barrier is definitely a line too far in the history of computing. But Apple has always been a very closed off ecosystem - going back to the nineties they were never very friendly to developers or third party hardware. To me this is just Apple doing Apple - their phone, IMO, is still miles ahead of anything else, though.

> few hobbies are as cheap as this

Quite true.

Re: by flohofwoe on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @12:07PM (#34806977)
> that you can side load apps on Windows without using the app store at all

It's unfortunately not that simple anymore on Windows either with the SmartScreen popup getting in the way and the "Run anyway" button hard to find (not as bad as on macOS but still...).

Your executable needs a big enough "reputation score" for SmartScreen to remain silent, even when properly code-signed (unless it's signed with an expensive EV-certificiate apparently).

Re: by JohnFen on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @02:46PM (#34809570)
For a lot of people, including hobbyist programmers, $99 is actually quite a lot of money.
Re: by user_7832 on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @10:50PM (#34814764)
> Even if you develop apps a a hobby, this is not a large amount of money. Few hobbies are a cheap as this.

Let me guess, you’re from a 1st world country and probably make 6 figures a year (pre tax), likely working in FAANG?

As a guy in a 3rd world country, $99 is a hell lot of money. Your comment comes across as quite tone deaf. If you grew up middle-upper class and relatively sheltered that’s not necessarily your fault, but trust me in many parts of the world $99 is worth much more converted.