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Re:Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train... by c1ccccc1 on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @12:43PM (#34792984)
> Any other vehicle and we would hold the worker accountable for not refusing such a negligent order.

Say the worker refuses that order and their boss says "okay, you're fired". Would we also give that worker legal protection? Would we also hold accountable the higher ups who gave that order and set the policies for how trains are to be run? If not, then you now understand why the accident happened.

Re:Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train... by notch898a on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @02:30PM (#34794674)
>Would we also give that worker legal protection?

Yes I believe that's exactly what is to happen. See this explicitly spelled out https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/mou/2012-07-16 .

I've worked in goods transport in interstate navigable waterways and we had the same thing, literally anyone can "stop work" for unaddressed imminent dangerous conditions and are protected against retaliation. Even if the protection fails it is better my own family starve to death than to poison an entire city; just following orders isn't an excuse (and in any case, such a company of such character company would fire you after the wreck).

Re:Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train... by vGPU on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @01:45AM (#34800828)
But who’s got the time and money to deal with it? I’ve tried to file an osh complaint before. They told me they hadn’t even gotten to the ones from this decade yet.
Re:Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train... by notch898a on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @11:47AM (#34806570)
The OSHA stop-work criteria (noted in my below post) explicit state you needn't wait for a complaint to stop-work for imminent dangers too soon for inspection.

Note: this is not individualized advice and I am not a lawyer.