EU lawmakers approve effective 2035 ban on new fossil fuel cars

Re:EU lawmakers approve effective 2035 ban on new fossil fue... by TheLoafOfBread on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @10:26AM (#34790631)

As an BEV owner, there is no way in hell I would let incompetent utility company purposefully damage my battery, because they were too greedy to build their own storage.

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Re:EU lawmakers approve effective 2035 ban on new fossil fue... by dashundchen on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @10:41AM (#34790892)

Fair enough, these types of programs are opt-in for a reason. I definitely would consider it if the price is right.

For me, a personal vehicle is a depreciating asset that sits unused 98% of the time. I'd be better off with carshare if it existed in my city.

If the program also allowed me to use the battery as a home backup, I'd opt-in.

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Re:EU lawmakers approve effective 2035 ban on new fossil fue... by ClumsyPilot on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @10:39AM (#34790858)

I was skeptical as well, but enough people have signed up that it works. Our personal opinion doesnt matter.

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Re:EU lawmakers approve effective 2035 ban on new fossil fue... by TheLoafOfBread on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @10:54AM (#34791135)

People who don't understand that they are exchanging their battery life for few cents. Eventually word will spread out and those programs are going to become mandatory.

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Re:EU lawmakers approve effective 2035 ban on new fossil fue... by ClumsyPilot on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @11:09AM (#34791416)

The original statement was - BEVs will overload the grid, this discussion shows oposite is the case - they are used to stabilise the grid.

> those programs are going to become mandatory

I would say the jury is still out if it makes financial sence. Batteries lose capacity to aging even if you don't use them.

This is extremely speculative and if the government has appetite to make anything mandatory about cars, they would start by enforcing the speed limit electronically

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Re:EU lawmakers approve effective 2035 ban on new fossil fue... by mytailorisrich on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @11:32AM (#34791798)

> The original statement was - BEVs will overload the grid, this discussion shows oposite is the case - they are used to stabilise the grid.

Not at all.

The EVs' batteries are used as storage, which can help with intermittent electricity production but it implies two things assuming it can work at all:

1. enough electricity is produced overall,

2. the grid has the capacity to move all that electricity around.

These are the two issues I initially mentioned and using EVs' batteries as temporary storage solves neither.

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Re:EU lawmakers approve effective 2035 ban on new fossil fue... by bryanlarsen on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @12:23PM (#34792688)

It's a lot more than a few cents. This guy made $550 for delivering 297 kWh of electricity over a one year period.

https://electrek.co/2023/02/09/tesla-powerwall-owners-made-5...

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Re:EU lawmakers approve effective 2035 ban on new fossil fue... by TheLoafOfBread on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @01:25PM (#34793684)

So do it for 32 more years to have money for a new battery. As I said, few cents.

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