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Re:Tell HN: Salesforce is mandating RTO 3 days/wk for all em... by slt2021 on Monday February 13, 2023 @02:45PM (#34779192)
infosec will see badged people connecting to remote VPN instead of in-office wifi.

Just don't cheat and fraud, easily detectable

Re:Tell HN: Salesforce is mandating RTO 3 days/wk for all em... by buildbot on Monday February 13, 2023 @02:51PM (#34779288)
If the only way to detect this "fraud" is that VPNs are in use, then why bother returning to the office? Seems like it's only a cost center with no added benefit.
Re:Tell HN: Salesforce is mandating RTO 3 days/wk for all em... by samtho on Monday February 13, 2023 @02:59PM (#34779406)
Control. The old guard of large business cannot stand that people have their own lives away from work and how will they know that someone is actually working rather than collecting a paycheck?
Re:Tell HN: Salesforce is mandating RTO 3 days/wk for all em... by mathverse on Monday February 13, 2023 @03:10PM (#34779631)
It is actually odd they perceive it like this. I work much harder from home than I ever did from the office.

It is impossible to hide doing WFH like one can do “endlessly” collaborating with your colleagues at the office.

Re:Tell HN: Salesforce is mandating RTO 3 days/wk for all em... by guhidalg on Monday February 13, 2023 @03:29PM (#34779903)
Not odd at all. First-level managers may still have a tenuous grasp of being an empathetic person, but managers of managers are only interested in growing their kingdom. To that end, WFH makes it harder for them to demonstrate a need for more headcount.

Let me make it very clear: Employees that WFH are more productive, so you don't need more of them. If you don't need more headcount, the executive has no use. If the executive has no use, they will be executed (symbolically, as a re-org).

Re:Tell HN: Salesforce is mandating RTO 3 days/wk for all em... by raverbashing on Monday February 13, 2023 @03:40PM (#34780076)
It's not odd, it's 50% incompetence 50% feelings of self-importance
Re:Tell HN: Salesforce is mandating RTO 3 days/wk for all em... by slt2021 on Monday February 13, 2023 @05:09PM (#34781479)
there are countless ways to detect fraud, these days we leave digital footprints all over the place, I just gave one simple example how to do it in 5 minutes with 2 SQL queries
Re:Tell HN: Salesforce is mandating RTO 3 days/wk for all em... by NovemberWhiskey on Monday February 13, 2023 @03:04PM (#34779519)
Or maybe just don't cheat because it's not ethical?