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Re:United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately by vbezhenar on Monday February 13, 2023 @09:33AM (#34773830)
IMO the only regime change likely in Russia will not make you happy. There're some very pro-military leaders arise recently. Putin does not allow for war to go full-scale. Those leaders will.

Fragmentation is possible but I don't believe it, at least for now.

Russia loses soldiers but they obtain much more soldiers with perfect battle training, they acquire priceless experience as to which weapons are effective and so on.

It's not that simple.

If anything, threat to eastern Europe is as huge as ever.

Sometimes I think that Putin slows this war on purpose. To train more soldiers, to weed out bad blood from commanders, to put their weapon to real test. Basically to build a real army.

Re:United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately by inglor_cz on Monday February 13, 2023 @09:51AM (#34774072)
"obtain much more soldiers with perfect battle training"

Funny how those soldiers with perfect battle training still suffer from enormous incompetence, resulting in routs such as in Vuhledar. The units that fought there were reportedly Russian elite marine units. They died like flies in an unforgiving terrain, without air and even arty support.

"Perfect" soldiers would not even start an assault in such conditions.

Re:United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately by nradov on Monday February 13, 2023 @10:01AM (#34774211)
I saw a video recently where a column of Russian tanks was advancing along a road when the lead vehicle was hit by artillery. The others proceeded to ... just stop and wait until they were also hit.

Now I'm no expert in mechanized warfare but I think when you're caught by artillery fire on an open road with no cover you're not supposed to sit there and wait to get hit. Advance past the kill zone, retreat, or disperse but don't stop and wait for orders. Apparently this is the result of "perfect battle training" a year into the war.

Re:United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately by vbezhenar on Monday February 13, 2023 @10:51AM (#34775049)
There're hundreds of thousands of soldiers. There're dozens of thousands of tanks and other vehicles. Incompetence is unavoidable and those kinds of situations put this incompetence to focus and hopefully measures will be developed to prevent it from happening in the future.
Re:United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately by nradov on Monday February 13, 2023 @11:48AM (#34776005)
Why would you hope for that? We should all hope that Russian soldiers remain incompetent and die or withdraw without hurting anyone else.
Re:United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately by pshirshov on Monday February 13, 2023 @01:18PM (#34777721)
What tanks? T62? T34?..
Re:United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately by LemmyInThePub on Monday February 13, 2023 @11:33AM (#34775732)
> IMO the only regime change likely in Russia will not make you happy.

Don't be daft!

Any new Russian leader, no matter how hawkish they currently talk, knows full well that Russian forces are depleted and will be incapable of waging a "major" war for many years to come.......