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Re:No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health by nordsieck on Saturday February 11, 2023 @09:29AM (#34752567)
> They state there is no scientific safe drinking level. They even compare it to radiation. The goal is to establish an unsafe level. it's like saying there is no safe speed to drive a car - sure that's technically true, but worthless to say.

Which is ironic, because, while most people use the "Linear no-threshold" model for radiation, we know that small amounts of radiation are actually beneficial.

The most charitable reason I can think of for why people still use the LNT model is because it's simple and robust. But that doesn't mean that it's the most accurate understanding that we have.

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Re:No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health by PartiallyTyped on Saturday February 11, 2023 @09:41AM (#34752674)
> Which is ironic, because, while most people use the "Linear no-threshold" model for radiation, we know that small amounts of radiation are actually beneficial.

How could ionizing radiation be beneficial? Unless the argument is exposure to ultraviolet in lieu of getting Vitamin D, I can’t imagine ionizing radiation to be beneficial in any way.

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Re:No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health by nordsieck on Saturday February 11, 2023 @09:43AM (#34752691)
> How could ionizing radiation be beneficial?

I'm not going to pretend that I understand the reasons. But there have been a lot of studies.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2477686/

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Re:No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health by hackandthink on Saturday February 11, 2023 @10:19AM (#34753072)
I think before the atomic bomb radioactivity was widely considered as healthy.

(maybe it was not as crazy as I thought)

This is wild stuff:

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180306-a-spa-where-pati...

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Re:No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health by etothepii on Saturday February 11, 2023 @10:02AM (#34752892)
Just because something does not work in theory does not mean that it does not work in practice.
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Re:No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health by davidhbolton on Saturday February 11, 2023 @12:00PM (#34754045)
From the BMJ *British Medical Journal). "Analyses of the dose of alcohol consumed showed that 2.5–14.9 g alcohol (about ≤1 drink) per day was protective for all five outcomes compared with no alcohol (table 2⇑). For coronary heart disease outcomes, all levels of intake >2.5 g/day had similar degrees of risk reduction. " https://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.d671

Heart Disease is a bigger killer than cancer.

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