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Re:“Open Source” Seeds Loosen Big Ag’s Grip on Farmers by tptacek on Friday February 10, 2023 @11:22PM (#34749552)
Nothing you can do with water, soil, and sunlight is going to produce RoundUp --- or a RoundUp-Ready seed.

It's perfectly reasonable to oppose all patents. Just don't pretend the wind, sun, and dirt somehow invalidate seed patents. There's no distinction to draw.

Re:“Open Source” Seeds Loosen Big Ag’s Grip on Farmers by bob29 on Saturday February 11, 2023 @01:02AM (#34749982)
People have been sued for growing patented potatoes, unrelated to round up . . . Ok?

U take tuber u put it in ground it grows more tubers u try to sell BOOM illegal son .

Re:“Open Source” Seeds Loosen Big Ag’s Grip on Farmers by tptacek on Saturday February 11, 2023 @01:04AM (#34749990)
Uh huh.
Re:“Open Source” Seeds Loosen Big Ag’s Grip on Farmers by bob29 on Saturday February 11, 2023 @02:14AM (#34750284)
[Square bracket number citation link thingy https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-pepsi-farmers/pepsi...]

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Re:“Open Source” Seeds Loosen Big Ag’s Grip on Farmers by bob29 on Saturday February 11, 2023 @11:49PM (#34759894)
He doesn’t respond so I win by default . Righteous troll:1 Capitalist corporation defender: 0
Re:“Open Source” Seeds Loosen Big Ag’s Grip on Farmers by pfdietz on Saturday February 11, 2023 @07:22AM (#34751722)
So, your objection to patents is that they are enforced when violated?
Re:“Open Source” Seeds Loosen Big Ag’s Grip on Farmers by bob29 on Saturday February 11, 2023 @11:40AM (#34753837)
No. Objection when they are overly broad generic obvious and\or trivial

Am surprised even need to explain on this forum of coders. Many examples of bad boy software patents.

Re:“Open Source” Seeds Loosen Big Ag’s Grip on Farmers by pfdietz on Saturday February 11, 2023 @02:14PM (#34755314)
And you evidence that the patents for these potatoes was "overly broad generic obvious and/or trivial" is...?
Re:“Open Source” Seeds Loosen Big Ag’s Grip on Farmers by bob29 on Saturday February 11, 2023 @05:29PM (#34757071)
Our illiterate ancestors have been doing it for thousands of years.
Re:“Open Source” Seeds Loosen Big Ag’s Grip on Farmers by pfdietz on Saturday February 11, 2023 @06:33PM (#34757614)
That's a whopper of a non sequitur. I was asking about the specific patent on these potatoes. Our ancestors have been this specific patented version of potatoes for thousands of years? Really?
Re:“Open Source” Seeds Loosen Big Ag’s Grip on Farmers by bob29 on Saturday February 11, 2023 @11:47PM (#34759888)
No, they have been cross pollinating parents with desirable traits to produce an offspring with more desirable traits. The same thing Pepsi did to make FC5 potato.

Here is the patent for the FC5 potato.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6940004B2/en

Read it carefully because while the patent claims that it also would apply if transgenic modifications are added, the variety was developed through just classic breeding techniques, which are described in the patent in case you aren’t familiar.

Re:“Open Source” Seeds Loosen Big Ag’s Grip on Farmers by pfdietz on Sunday February 12, 2023 @04:36PM (#34767277)
And it's fine to patent specific (and novel) varieties of potato. The patent just applies to that specific variety, not to the general concept of improving potatoes. It's irrelevant that other specific varieties may have been bred for millenia.
Re:“Open Source” Seeds Loosen Big Ag’s Grip on Farmers by bob29 on Monday February 13, 2023 @11:03PM (#34785131)
So PepsiCo can utilize others prior breeding work, but prevents others from using their variety’s to breed with ?

If everyone who bred a potato patented it, we all suffer as breeders would be limited in what they can work with.

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