Re:UK: Fast charging EVs more expensive than filling petrol
by rootusrootus on Thursday February 09, 2023 @02:35PM
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And that is with your extremely high home rates. The national average is about 16 cents. Your base rate is higher than my peak rate. My overnight rate is under 5 cents.
Re:UK: Fast charging EVs more expensive than filling petrol
by DeRock on Thursday February 09, 2023 @02:40PM
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Sure, but California, where PGE operates, is by far the biggest EV market in the US. Which makes the parents comments of
> they made it clear that it’s always cheaper to charge at home
> Fast chargers are convenient but resellers of municipal electricity are not going to be the most cost efficient option.
not necessarily true.
Re:UK: Fast charging EVs more expensive than filling petrol
by Sebb767 on Thursday February 09, 2023 @02:54PM
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Assuming the US. In Germany, anything below 45ct/kWh [0] is considered cheap right now.
[0] Euro-cent, but the conversion is pretty much 1:1 right now anyway.
Re:UK: Fast charging EVs more expensive than filling petrol
by rootusrootus on Thursday February 09, 2023 @03:00PM
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Yeah, Europe is getting completely hosed on energy prices. Historically some of that is self-inflicted voluntary price increases, but I imagine that nowadays it's more about that pesky Putin guy disrupting the energy supply.
Re:UK: Fast charging EVs more expensive than filling petrol
by officeplant on Thursday February 09, 2023 @02:43PM
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That seems vastly cheaper than filling up even my more economic crossover (Kia Sportage) at around $3 a gallon lately.
Even cheaper at my local electric rates of $0.15/kWh during peak demand.
Now I just need the price of EV's to come down.
Re:UK: Fast charging EVs more expensive than filling petrol
by manscrober on Thursday February 09, 2023 @02:55PM
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Many EVs are actually priced competitively for their specific segment. The issue is that there are 5-10 y/o used ICE cars that are obviously much cheaper, and EVs are generally short right now, so used prices are up.
Re:UK: Fast charging EVs more expensive than filling petrol
by mrguyorama on Thursday February 09, 2023 @03:09PM
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The rules are extremely different state to state. Some states don't allow fast charging companies to resell their power like that, so they have to charge exclusively for the time you are using the charger, rather than the actual electricity you are using.
There's like an entire order of magnitude from the high end to the low end
EA -> 31¢ / kWh (increasing to 36¢ soon)
PGE -> 33¢ / kWh upto baseline, 41 ¢ after (and if you're charging your car, you go above baseline)
https://www.pge.com/pge_global/common/pdfs/rate-plans/how-ra...