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Re:UK: Fast charging EVs more expensive than filling petrol by msh on Thursday February 09, 2023 @02:04PM (#34729365)
UK energy prices must be insane. I am from Denmark where energy is pretty expensive and even if I did all my charging on superchargers it would still be cheaper than gas (and waayyyy cheaper with home charging).

It cost at the most expensive 40% to charge my model y on superchargers (approx 500 km range in real terms) compared to my 2018 gas car (citroen c4 space tourer) that drove approx 600 km on a full tank

Re:UK: Fast charging EVs more expensive than filling petrol by manscrober on Thursday February 09, 2023 @02:58PM (#34730390)
tesla superchargers are generally cheaper than standalone charging network providers, UK energy prices are indeed insane, UK consumer rights are abhorrent now that they've left the EU, and teslas are more efficient than most other EVs
Re:UK: Fast charging EVs more expensive than filling petrol by michaelt on Thursday February 09, 2023 @03:00PM (#34730449)
If you charge at a Gridserve fast charger, as you might find at a motorway service station, you can look forward to paying 66p/kWh [1] for electricity.

On the other hand, an industrial user of electricity might pay 22p/kWh [2] so these fast chargers have a big profit margin.

[1] https://www.gridserve.com/our-pricing/ [2] https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...

Re:UK: Fast charging EVs more expensive than filling petrol by Symbiote on Thursday February 09, 2023 @03:51PM (#34731264)
Britain's prices shot up with everyone else in Europe's when Putin reduced the gas supply, but Britain is more reliant on gas than many other countries so the price hasn't come back down.

Sjælland's overnight price last night dropped to about 0.75kr, but in Britain it was 2.10kr! The peak prices today were similar, 2.70kr and 2.80kr, but Britain had that for most of the day, and Sjælland just 4 hours.

Britain also has buildings with worse insulation, fewer people living in apartments, and much less use of district heating.

https://andelenergi.dk/sel/timeenergi/

https://agileprices.co.uk/

https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/GB (40% gas right now for GB vs 4% for East Denmark and 2% for West.).

Re:UK: Fast charging EVs more expensive than filling petrol by blitzar on Friday February 10, 2023 @04:41AM (#34737555)
UK electricity prices blew out in 2021, fortunately, we are now back below the September 2021 prices - at least for wholesale electricity.

Consumer, however, are paying 3/4/5x what we were in 2021 thanks to - well absolutely no idea.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/electricity-pric...