Right. But Docker is not a charity. I think that Podman/Buildah is actually a superior solution. This might unfortunately mean the ultimate demise of Docker, Inc. as we know them.

To be fair, I literally use Docker everyday. So I'm not necessarily rooting for its demise. But I'm seemingly happy that innovation is at least coming from somewhere in this space.

Really? I thought Docker was pretty widely used at companies for deployment, etc. At least it was at my company ~1 year ago. I wasn't aware that Docker was on life support in any sense.

Widely used, but I don’t think it makes a whole lot of money to sustain itself

I think it’s north of $100m a year now so all of the life support talk is not based in truth.

Around $135m / year according to this: https://sacra.com/p/docker-plg-pivot/

A lot of people use Docker

A lot of people also don't pay for Docker

Mirantis acquired the Docker Enterprise business. When Docker focused on Desktop, they became a $50MM/year company.

You mean "when Docker decided to strong-arm their wealthiest customers into paying tens of thousands per month with a few months of warning, they became a $50MM/year company?"

Interested in seeing how sticky that revenue is. A big chunk of its value is provided by other free solutions.

This is a common misconception. While podman is indeed installed on Red Hat CoreOS it does not run the containers used by OpenShift. OCP 4 uses CRI-O to run all containers and if you login as the core or root user and run podman ps you wil not see any running containers.

Oh wow, I thought OCP used crun at least. Surprising!

I do think the revenue from OpenShift and friends funds Podman/buildah/crun/etc.

Podman and CRI-O share the low level libraries (namely containers/image and containers/storage).

crun is Tech Preview in OpenShift 4.12: https://cloud.redhat.com/blog/whats-new-in-red-hat-openshift...