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Re: by k1m on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @05:13PM (#34716170)
> Is this misinformation/propaganda? Maybe, maybe not, but false positives are better in cases like this than false negatives.

You question people's motivation when it comes to submissions. Why not when it comes to flagging? Does it foster intellectual curiousity to flag a story by a renowned investigative journalist?

In any case, what's surprising to me here is the reaction to dang's reasonable justification for disabling the flags on this story. I think those who continue to push for its removal after flagging have moved beyond "I personally don't think it's a suitable topic" to "I don't want anyone else to read it". I find the latter attitude very worrying.

Re: by archagon on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @05:15PM (#34716209)
I flagged it because it looks and quacks like propaganda and has little to do with tech. Perhaps Seymour Hersh is another once-reputable journalist who has unfortunately succumbed to anti-West brain-rot like Glenn Greenwald.

I am also worried that HN's moderation has a bus factor of one, and has effectively no recourse. That's a lot of community-shaping power in one person's hands, regardless of how good of a job dang normally does.

Re: by MichaelZuo on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @06:20PM (#34717119)
The parent's first question is still pertinent.

> You question people's motivation when it comes to submissions. Why not when it comes to flagging?

Re: by archagon on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @06:35PM (#34717329)
If you can't trust the community's input when it comes to flagging, then why bother pretending you have a community at all?
Re: by MichaelZuo on Thursday February 09, 2023 @09:45AM (#34724669)
If you can't trust the community's input when it comes to submissions, then why bother pretending you have a community at all?

To me either negation is about the same but not a deal breaker because I can exercise reasonable judgement.

Re: by naasking on Thursday February 09, 2023 @12:40PM (#34727843)
> Perhaps Seymour Hersh is another once-reputable journalist who has unfortunately succumbed to anti-West brain-rot like Glenn Greenwald.

Well that explains why you're so against this type of article. You should reconsider whether the rot you're perceiving isn't in the West, rather than in Greenwald's brain.

Re: by archagon on Thursday February 09, 2023 @12:43PM (#34727909)
I have already considered it carefully, thanks. Same to you.
Re: by lmm on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:54PM (#34718735)
> what's surprising to me here is the reaction to dang's reasonable justification for disabling the flags on this story

It doesn't seem so reasonable. It seems bizarre, frankly. It's utterly out of line with (what I percieve to be) the whole history of HN moderation on this kind of subject.