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Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by josephcsible on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @05:07PM (#34716068)
There are zero features I need from Windows 11 that Windows XP didn't already have. The only reason I'm not still running XP is that security vulnerabilities in it are no longer being fixed.
Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by speed_spread on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @06:39PM (#34717379)
Windows 2000 was peak Windows.
Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by wkat4242 on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:27PM (#34718476)
This. 2000 was perfect. No bloat except solitaire and minesweeper. Fast and stable <3
Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by jimt1234 on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @06:40PM (#34717391)
This ^^^ I miss Windows XP. I was one of the last holdouts, forced off because XP lost security updates and apps just wouldn't install on it anymore.
Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by userbinator on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:22PM (#34718431)
is that security vulnerabilities in it are no longer being fixed.

Are there? MS even released a fix quite recently for it.

On the other hand, I bet there are plenty more vulnerabilities in Windows 11 that still haven't been discovered yet.

Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by josephcsible on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:37PM (#34718581)
> On the other hand, I bet there are plenty more vulnerabilities in Windows 11 that still haven't been discovered yet.

There probably are, but I'd rather have a bunch of vulnerabilities that nobody knows about yet, and that will be patched once people do learn, than slightly fewer vulnerabilities that everyone is constantly trying to exploit and that will be there forever.

Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by userbinator on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @10:12PM (#34719314)
and that will be there forever.

Don't be so certain --- the enthusiast community will fix them if they're important enough, even more so if they're ones that "everyone is constantly trying to exploit". Also, no one who knows what they're doing is going to be facing the Internet without a NAT or firewall that blocks incoming connections by default.

Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by alexklarjr on Thursday February 09, 2023 @07:04PM (#34733608)
That means vendors should be legally forced to publish source code of any software they abandon / stoped providing support. Hope this will happen soon. Regarding Windows XP, full source code has been leaked already (not SP3 but close to recent).
Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by smileybarry on Thursday February 09, 2023 @02:44PM (#34730142)
The vast majority of security issues with XP (and some with 7) are architectural. E.g.: you can't fix some security vulnerability relating to GDI on XP without essentially replacing it with Vista/7's DWM. Conversely, 7 has a few security weaknesses compared to 8/8.1 due to missing kernel security features that are, essentially, a binary diff between 7 & 8 rather than a small patch.

"Updates" for XP POS Edition and the like are mostly support filler and don't bring it up to the same security level as a modern OS. I.e.: There's still a bunch of logical vulnerabilities present.

Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by userbinator on Thursday February 09, 2023 @03:38PM (#34731050)
Local "vulnerabilities", if that's what you're referring to, are really not.
Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by smileybarry on Thursday February 09, 2023 @08:41PM (#34734530)
Privilege escalation is definitely a vulnerability, the same way you'd consider a Docker escape a vulnerability.
Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by josephcsible on Thursday February 09, 2023 @03:58PM (#34731355)
Can you give specific examples of these sorts of vulnerabilities?
Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by wkat4242 on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:28PM (#34718487)
Well XP didn't have HiDPI. I would have missed that with my 4K screen at 200% scaling. Even though they still screw it up to this very day.