I just want Google to fall, nothing much more than that. I personally am going to continue using Kagi, but will quietly cheer Microsoft eating Google's lunch.

I would love to see google fail. They have held the internet hostage for far too long

How old are you? I don't mean this to be offensive. It's just I remember when the same was said about Microsoft when Google was up and coming.

I really am getting old ...

Late 30s. Yes I realize that me 20 years ago would find a lot of distaste in my current position. However, from my point of view, Google is causing a lot more present day harm than Microsoft is. Microsoft has been reduced to the point of having to ship Google's browser, and offering products with Linux support. Google is in no such position, and continues to use anti competitive tactics to vertically integrate, to create a landscape that is favorable to their ad machine. I realize that this is an unpopular opinion, but there ya go.

If/when Bing gains dominance and starts abusing its position, I'll probably change positions, but that's the way it goes when there's a lack of competition in the market. You're left cheering for the best of the worst.

People want answers. Google isn't giving them answers.

If you ask google a question then an awful lot of the time the majority of top 10 results will be promoting or selling stuff.

So you'd rather have a load of probabilistic bullshit? The training sets are way too huge to be human audited, just wait until the malicious actors start producing propaganda with their own GPT sites and deepfakes. The fucking thing can't even tell a straight fact about a telescope. If you thought searching the internet was fucked before GPT, give it a few years.

I am fine with only historical knowledge in such a tool like GPT of that will be a problem. Most stuff don't change.

I'm not sure who'd want probabilistic bullshit. I said people wanted answers and Google was crap at giving it to them.

At the moment ChatGPT is like having an personal assistant that used to be an world leading expert, but has been sniffing glue for the last 5 years. He knows a lot of shit but you can't trust it. But he can help you get started and he's fun to be around.

Except ChatGPT isn't fun to be around. It's been castrated of humor and dominated by extreme political correctness. I think GPT is the catalyst for a change, but in Microsoft's hands it'll just be a glorified Clippy.

As for training data scraped from the internet, it will be split like steel was with "pre-war steel", due to atomic bombs rendering steel unfit to use in geiger counters. We'll have pre-gpt data.

A nice thought, but if GPT can't answer "what is the name of Taylor Swift's latest album" for anytime past 2023 then I would call it not very good.