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Re:Will AI pass the Turing test by 2029 Jan 1? (Market on Ka... by JohnFen on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @11:29AM (#34710450)
Computers that can pass the Turing test have already happened. But the Turing test isn't really a very good test. Even Turing thought that.
Re:Will AI pass the Turing test by 2029 Jan 1? (Market on Ka... by guenthert on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @12:24PM (#34711393)
Not sure, why you're down-voted. I wished people who disagree would do so in writing, rather with a single button-click.

Perhaps it would help to state why you think the Turing test isn't good. I think, while it has some charm and poses a considerable challenge to the industry, it is unsuitable in meeting its goal. Turing underestimated how easily humans are being fooled.

Re:Will AI pass the Turing test by 2029 Jan 1? (Market on Ka... by JohnFen on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @01:21PM (#34712339)
Down-votes don't bother me, but I agree that it would be nice to know what I said that caused that response. But such is life.

Turing didn't really intend it to be a real test. It was more of a thought experiment. The reason it's a poor test is because it's so subjective. Whether or not a computer can fool a human depends as much on the human as on the computer.

Re:Will AI pass the Turing test by 2029 Jan 1? (Market on Ka... by lesuorac on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @01:33PM (#34712537)
> Turing underestimated how easily humans are being fooled.

No I think that's his point. Humans are actually quite stupid so it's not difficult for a machine to emulate one.

It reminds me of a joke from a fictious park ranger about how hard it is to design a trash can because the dumbest tourists are dumber than the smartest bears.

Re:Will AI pass the Turing test by 2029 Jan 1? (Market on Ka... by n4r9 on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @01:49PM (#34712802)
Has anyone performed the Turing test using e.g. chatgpt or lamda? Blake Lemoine's experience doesn't count, since he knew he was talking to a machine.