Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report
by pjc50 on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:36AM
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> Russia and Ukraine nearly had a diplomatic solution in March, until NATO stopped them.
You're going to need some reliable evidence for this and an explanation of what the solution actually was, as well as why the Ukranians aren't making more of this.
Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report
by yokoprime on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:38AM
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Wow, that’s a lot of unverified claims. What is the source for the diplomatic solution from March 22? What’s the source for NATO stopping a diplomatic solution?
Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report
by justinclift on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:43AM
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> Russia and Ukraine nearly had a diplomatic solution in March, until NATO stopped them.
That's super, super, super unrealistic, as Russia has not indicated at any time they're willing to vacate Crimea.
Which is the absolute baseline for Russia to do.
Without that, anything Russia is claiming is really just a delaying tactic to let them prepare/re-equip for their next invasion wave.
Russia also has reason not to trust Ukraine and NATO after the Minsk agreement was violated.
And why would Russia back down? They’re winning. NATO is the one who destroyed negotiations and then lost the conflict; so it will have to be Ukraine and NATO who “back down”.
I can’t imagine the entitlement to think the winner of a conflict needs to “back down now” for negotiations.
Let’s try fixing your comment:
> Ukraine is Ukraine, and the thing preventing the situation from reaching a diplomatic ending, which again is how all wars end, is that NATO can’t bring itself to back down now, and everything else is just excuses from the land of fiction that only work when applied unilaterally.