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Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report by dmpk2k on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:08AM (#34707469)
You're not wrong, because that is true too, but it is NATO that scares Russia.

Given Russia's long history of bloody invasions, I don't think this is something Americans can at all relate to. The American Civil War is small potatoes compared to some of the things that Russians (and other continental countries) have been through.

It makes for a very paranoid country.

Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report by The_Colonel on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:11AM (#34707505)
> Given Russia's long history of bloody invasions, I don't think this is something Americans can at all relate to.

This is something which most European countries can relate to, but they don't use it (anymore) to justify imperialism.

Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report by dmpk2k on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:25AM (#34707649)
Of course not, because they are all American vassals. Being under the Pax Americana umbrella myself, I'm quite okay with that.

However, I hope you can understand why a major power like Russia might be suspicious.

Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report by The_Colonel on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:33AM (#34707742)
> Of course not, because they are all American vassals.

Someone is eating the Russian propaganda here. Projection and all.

> However, I hope you can understand why a major power like Russia might be suspicious.

It can be as suspicious as it wants, within its borders.

Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report by dmpk2k on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:51AM (#34707973)
That knee-jerk reply exemplifies why there won't be any negotiations any time soon, and I'm just some random person on the Internet.

You need to take a walk, and I'm out too.

Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report by neoromantique on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @09:01AM (#34708097)
That's okay, time for negotiations has long passed.
Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report by somethingreen on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @09:14AM (#34708256)
The amount of effort you people put into not hearing what russians have on multiple occasions in plainest of words claimed to be the goal of the war is honestly mind boggling.
Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report by enjoy-your-stay on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @04:18PM (#34715330)
Was it denazification, demilitarization, or de-satanization? I've lost track of the many stated goals. Or was it to help those poor souls in the DPR shoot down more civilian jets? Can't quite remember. Or was it to protect German speakers in the Sudetenland?

And anyway, it's not a war. It's a Special Military Operation. How more plain can you get?

Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report by girvo on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @06:45PM (#34717445)
I think it was something to do with pigeons and bioweapons?

/s