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Re:Why the Austin airport situation was so dangerous by hef19898 on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @07:26AM (#34707124)
No, that is good training on behalf of FedEx, Southwest (knowing you have a plane above your own during take off and still follow ATC guidance is no easy feat) and the ATC (knowing you fucked up, staying calm and giving the correct instructions and keep everyone alive is again no easy feat). And training of operators absolutely is part of the overall system.
Re:Why the Austin airport situation was so dangerous by michaelt on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:00AM (#34707400)
If the wings fall off my plane mid flight, I jump out with a parachute, and I land without injury then the "overall system" of plane-plus-parachute-plus-training has succeeded.

However, the plane component of the system failed, because the wings aren't supposed to fall off.

Re:Why the Austin airport situation was so dangerous by doctor_eval on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:43AM (#34707854)
A safe system is resilient to errors. The controller made a mistake - that happens, the system should deal with it. But in this case, a crash was averted only because the fog lifted. It was pure luck. Ground movement radar, a runway incursion warning system, or a different landing clearance protocol could all have provided the necessary safety buffers.

When you’re up to the last “hole” in the cheese, that’s a failure.