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Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by mikrotikker on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @03:14PM (#34698764)
Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by ModernMech on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @06:14PM (#34701315)
What’s missing here is a notion of intersectionality, which explicitly is about how people are not just a singular identity, but an “intersection” of many - some of which may confer privilege, some of which may be discriminated against.

Ignoring this body of work makes the linked article a straw man argument with some cherry picked examples that don’t even make a point (why am I supposed to care that AOC tweets about some people at the exclusion of others?)

Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by mikrotikker on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @10:53PM (#34703913)
You missed the forest for the trees, friend.
Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by ModernMech on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:48AM (#34707937)
There’s not much of a forest there, as far as I can tell. Unless you want to actually make a point?
Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by kodah on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @08:48PM (#34703017)
AOC isnt exactly a shining light of intersectionalism. In fact, she kind of prides herself in tribalism. Consider this tweet: https://mobile.twitter.com/aoc/status/1103163478024601601 Rather than trying to share ground with others she's being reminded that she regularly drowns out other people's voices. She went on to do exactly that after this.

If your point is that not all leftists are intersectionalists and not all people who use intersectionalist words actually have the values, then I'd respond with, "duh".

Intersectionality isn't about telling one person's story or exemplifying one person's pain. It's about showing that these things are interconnected and effect people differently, and ways in which you probably wouldn't expect. It does the absolute opposite of a hierarchy.

Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by mikrotikker on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @10:59PM (#34703951)
Well thats just it. If you're a Muslim female your score is higher than a Muslim male. If you're a gay trans disabled Muslim you're higher than the Muslim woman. Thats how you figure out your victim score(tm).

(I could care less about AOC. She was like 1% of content of the article I posted.)

Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by kodah on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @04:13PM (#34715266)
You keep insisting there's a score or hierarchy, but I've yet to see an example of what that looks like. To me, and clearly others in this thread, the point is that there is no victim hierarchy. Nobody's victimhood, trauma, problems, whatever are any more important than anyone else's.
Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by LordDragonfang on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @01:21PM (#34712341)
ctrl+f "intersect"

> 0 results

So to answer my question, no you can't provide a source.

(Also identity politics and intersectionality aren't the same thing, despite the right's habit of using them as meaningless scare words)

Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by mikrotikker on Thursday February 09, 2023 @11:10PM (#34735513)
Ye gods, not a dreaded right winger! Didn't we throw all those people in camps?