Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo...
by Alupis on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @03:08PM
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No, because these positions are genuinely being offered as an alternative to being laid off. If you choose not to take the new position, then you have terminated yourself.
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Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo...
by yamtaddle on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @03:23PM
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If an actual layoff is the alternative, rather than being fired for-cause (after failing at being an IC, perhaps) or quitting, then yeah, it's not really constructive termination. I can't read the article to see if that's the case, though.
Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo...
by benj111 on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @03:15PM
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What are individual contributors in English? I took it to mean they were becoming contractors?
Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo...
by tick_tock_tick on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @03:22PM
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Individual contributors is just a fancy name for a software engineer without direct reports. Aka you'd stop being a manager and just write code (for the most part).
Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo...
by yamtaddle on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @03:21PM
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Anyone non-tech I know would just call it "labor", as opposed to management. The people who mostly do the things that make the stuff, rather than mostly telling others to do the things to make the stuff.
Again, people'd just say "labor" in other contexts. Or maybe "workers". I'm not sure where "IC" came from but I've never seen it outside of tech, and that, mostly online.
Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo...
by Nevermark on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @02:16AM
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I think “labor” is associated with repetitive or at least well characterized jobs
In tech, any two given workers are much less likely to be doing the same thing. So they are clearly not just laboring but contributing at some creative and self-management level as well
Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo...
by Falell on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @03:23PM
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Non-managers, they aren't responsible for anyone but themselves. I know nothing of Meta's specific titles but I'd expect that e.g. the first level of full time engineering manager would convert to a full time senior or staff engineer.
Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo...
by DSMan195276 on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @04:02PM
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Well the details are important here - are they being laid off, or is Meta suggesting they quit and then forcing them into a new role? The beginning of the article just says they're "asking" them to leave the company, not firing them, and I can't read the rest so it's a bit unclear what they're doing.