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Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by MockObject on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @01:30PM (#34696892)
> So it's... not Marxism at all. None of the rest of Marx makes sense if you replace "class" with "race".

Correct, and in fact, many Marxists are virulently against CRT/wokeness, because it distracts from class as the central conflict in society.

Critics crudely call CRT/wokeness "Marxist" because it's a conflict perspective.

Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by tptacek on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @02:26PM (#34697943)
Right, but the world is full of conflict perspectives, not least among right-wingers. They can't all be Marxists, just because Gramsci came up with an ultra-generalizable concept.

(I think we agree, just writing it down to clarify my thoughts).

Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by MockObject on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @02:32PM (#34698041)
We do agree here.

It's interesting that calling CRT "Marxist" gives the Fox News watchers a familiar enemy to fulminate against, and it gives the CRT peddlers themselves unearned credibility as dangerous dissidents, so it's a misidentification that serves everyone but the dwindling number of actual Marxists, and pedants bent on accuracy.

Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by tptacek on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @02:57PM (#34698514)
Yeah! Suck it, Maciej!