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Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by LoganDark on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @08:49AM (#34692657)
> People vote with their wallets.

People just don't want to vote with their wallets. Voting with your wallet isn't sustainable when the options you have to pick from are what's on the market. What's on the market will never be what you want to vote for; you want to vote for change.

-Emily

Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by Idiot_in_Vain on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @09:33AM (#34693225)
Of course they do. They can buy a Blu-Ray disk of a movie they want to watch (and potentially store a copy on a home NAS) or buy a Netflix subscription. Can buy a digital recording of a song, or a Spotify subsription.
Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by LoganDark on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @10:59AM (#34694415)
> They can buy a Blu-Ray disk of a movie they want to watch

No, they can't. A lot of new releases never leave streaming services.

You still need a Netflix subscription to obtain some of the DVDs for their "netflix originals". They do still ship DVDs, but they aren't available to buy separately, you need the streaming subscription to access them.

Some "netflix originals" have DVDs sold outside of Netflix (i.e. on Amazon), but not all; you need to order DVDs directly from Netflix as part of their DVD service, I believe. (If they are even available at all.)

> Can buy a digital recording of a song, or a Spotify subsription

No, they still can't. A lot of indie artists release on Spotify but never make physical media of any kind. You can't buy songs DRM-free from Spotify.

The answer is "well don't listen to that song then" but this kind of voting is really dumb and people do not like to do this. They'll suck it up and throw money even if they hate it with their entire being. Because society as a whole has been conditioned to do this, unfortunately, and no matter how hard you try to start a revolution, this is a fact of life and you cannot avoid it.

Tell me: when what you want is no longer on the market at all, how do you vote for it? With your wallet? Do you just not buy its replacement? Nobody will care. Unless you manage to start a revolution all at once, you not buying something will be statistically insignificant.

-Emily

Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by LarryMullins on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @01:26PM (#34696823)
>> Can buy a digital recording of a song, or a Spotify subsription

> No, they still can't. A lot of indie artists release on Spotify but never make physical media of any kind.

You're contrasting spotify with physical media, but responding to a remark that didn't say physical media. Are you aware that digital downloads of music have been DRM-free from iTunes and Amazon for many years now? Physical media is irrelevant.

I'm sure you might respond by saying that some artists are spotify-exclusives (I wouldn't listen to them on principle, but you do you). But the way you contrasted spotify with physical media specifically makes me think you might not be aware that DRM-free digital music downloads have been the norm since the late-00s (about the last time I ever bought a CD!)

Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by LoganDark on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @02:57AM (#34705386)
Sorry, I was contrasting with physical media because their first example was indeed contrasting with physical media. My point still stands. It doesn't have to be physical media, Spotify does not offer DRM-free downloads and some artists are indeed Spotify-exclusive.

I am not blind to the existence of DRM-free music downloads, no.

-Emily