Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC within a company

Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by tptacek on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @01:55AM (#34689610)

That's a real phenomenon! Obviously it is. I only dispute that you can:

(a) Trace it back to Gramsci, call it neo-Marxist, and then accuse anyone who ever bought an Robin DiAngelo book and performatively left it on their desk at work of being a neo-Marxist, and

(b) Seriously argue that the phenomenon is not only a religion, but is simultaneously the result and cause of the ordination of women in the Episcopalian church --- which is absolutely part of Rufo's subtext.

I do not want to get in the line of fire between anybody and Ibram X Kendi. I get that there's lots to criticize. It's not that I think there isn't a lot of frankly silly Marxist stuff happening in, like, the "institutional" Black Lives Matter movement. I just dispute that Chris Rufo knows what he's talking about, or cares, and that his summary of "wokeism", the one quoted above, makes sense.

Prepared to be wrong about all of this, but don't need to nerd out about it any more than you want to.

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Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by idlewords on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @02:26AM (#34689774)

I confess that I do not know who Rufo is or his opinions on any topic, and only jumped in to this thread because you seemed honestly at a loss about why people were being accused of Marxism despite having comfortably bourgeois beliefs about who should own the means of production.

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Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by tptacek on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @02:30AM (#34689800)

I endorse your not knowing who Rufo is. I am retreating from the bailey of my claim that there is no such thing as neo-Marxism (though I will go to the mattresses for the claim that Jordan Peterson doesn't know that it means) and retrenching in my motte of none of this having the slightest bit to do with the collapse of mainline protestantism.

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