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Re:The Agon light is the fastest 8-bit microcomputer by Brian_K_White on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @01:25AM (#34689453)
A z80 implemented as pure software is exactly as "real" as one implemented in gateware by that reasoning.

If you implement all the same logic, then it's all the same logic, and by your own logic, the implementation medium doesn't matter.

Performance may differ but that's a seperate facet from "real" if you are going to allow hardware emulation to count as "real".

Even though a gate provided by an fpga is hardware, it's totally different hardware from that same gate in a native ic. You just get a very similar outward effect, IE, a very good emulation.

This conversation is stupid.

Re:The Agon light is the fastest 8-bit microcomputer by justin66 on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @10:58AM (#34694407)
> Even though a gate provided by an fpga is hardware, it's totally different hardware from that same gate in a native ic.

And the ez80 is totally different hardware than a classic z80. It seems like a religious argument that a z80 core implemented on an FPGA, offering exactly the same registers and features as a classic z80, is somehow less "real" than the ez80 (which doesn't offer the exact same features as a z80) simply because the FPGA might (or might not) be reprogrammable to a different set of gates.

> You just get a very similar outward effect, IE, a very good emulation.

An emulator is a thing that exists in the world, and this is not it. Someone in another thread mentioned implementing a z80 on an ESP32. That is an emulator.

> This conversation is stupid.

Insofar as it's about terminology... yeah, okay, your word.