Re:Adversary Drones Are Spying on the U.S. and The Pentagon ...
by pessimizer on Monday February 06, 2023 @05:43PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gun:_Maverick
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Re:Adversary Drones Are Spying on the U.S. and The Pentagon ...
by moose_man on Monday February 06, 2023 @05:45PM
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That movie went way out of its way to obscure what country they going against. It definitely did not say the antagonists were Chinese.
Re:Adversary Drones Are Spying on the U.S. and The Pentagon ...
by pessimizer on Monday February 06, 2023 @05:50PM
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That movie, like most American military action movies, was done in partnership with the US government, which was given approval on the script. I would ask why Chinese propaganda is painted as oppressive and heavy-handed when we're doing the exact same thing through government programs that are old enough to collect Social Security.
Re:Adversary Drones Are Spying on the U.S. and The Pentagon ...
by bee_rider on Monday February 06, 2023 @06:41PM
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Those programs are also bad.
Re:Adversary Drones Are Spying on the U.S. and The Pentagon ...
by RajT88 on Monday February 06, 2023 @11:26PM
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There is also a difference between approving a script portraying the military, and literally commissioning a movie.
And I think everyone can agree that such a difference exists, even though both are bad.
Re:Adversary Drones Are Spying on the U.S. and The Pentagon ...
by moose_man on Monday February 06, 2023 @06:11PM
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I didn't call out those movies because the state was involved, it's because they glorified killing and fighting Americans.
Re:Adversary Drones Are Spying on the U.S. and The Pentagon ...
by Rebelgecko on Monday February 06, 2023 @05:48PM
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What country do you think was vilified by that movie?
Re:Adversary Drones Are Spying on the U.S. and The Pentagon ...
by pessimizer on Monday February 06, 2023 @05:52PM
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No country was vilified by Lake Changjin, either. A country that invaded Korea and killed a lot of people to keep them from becoming Communists was depicted.
Re:Adversary Drones Are Spying on the U.S. and The Pentagon ...
by ericd on Monday February 06, 2023 @06:06PM
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Right... "The film ends with the caption: "The great spirit of the War to Resist U.S. Aggression and Aid (North) Korea will eternally be renewed! Eternal glory to the great martyrs of the People's Volunteer Army!" "
Re:Adversary Drones Are Spying on the U.S. and The Pentagon ...
by pessimizer on Monday February 06, 2023 @06:13PM
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Are you pointing out that China calls the US invasion of Korea "The War to Resist US Aggression," or are you trying to say that our propaganda is more subtle? We literally dedicated Rambo II to the heroes of the Afghanistan mujahideen.
Re:Adversary Drones Are Spying on the U.S. and The Pentagon ...
by ericd on Monday February 06, 2023 @06:31PM
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Haha I'm not defending US propaganda at all, but it’s just silly to say that the CCP is not trying to vilify the US and rouse nationalist sentiment against the US with this and related films.
Re:Adversary Drones Are Spying on the U.S. and The Pentagon ...
by reducesuffering on Monday February 06, 2023 @06:42PM
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You do realize that North Korea first invaded South Korea?[0]
And because the US was able to defend South Korea from a communist takeover, but failed to prevent Vietnam, South Korea's GDP per capita is $35k while Vietnam is $3.7k, an almost order of magnitude difference. North Korea's fate was even worse...
[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War#Course_of_the_war
Re:Adversary Drones Are Spying on the U.S. and The Pentagon ...
by Rebelgecko on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @02:04AM
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I don't think we have enough common ground to have a productive discussion here. Even notwithstanding the historical inaccuracies and fabrications in the movie, the musical cues and wanna-be "Triumph of the Will" cinematography when American characters are introduced all scream "villain" to me.
Those who haven't seen the movie can watch this clip and decide for themselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmBjkb-r8Fw