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Re:Voice.ai: GPL Violations with a Side of DRM by goodpoint on Monday February 06, 2023 @04:31PM (#34684684)
No, the additional clause in the AGPL triggers *only* when a network service is directly accessible to 3rd parties.
Re:Voice.ai: GPL Violations with a Side of DRM by jraph on Monday February 06, 2023 @04:39PM (#34684794)
So yes, it "triggers" (even) without distribution: the network service being directly accessible is a sufficient condition and the distribution not a necessary one (it is also a sufficient condition though).
Re:Voice.ai: GPL Violations with a Side of DRM by adrr on Monday February 06, 2023 @05:10PM (#34685186)
Distribution is network protocol which they claim copyright over. It only covers outside distribution and can't cover standardized protocols and formats because they don't own the copyright on those. If postgres was AGPL, they can't claim that ANSI SQL triggers copyright because ANSI SQL is owned by INCITS.
Re:Voice.ai: GPL Violations with a Side of DRM by jraph on Monday February 06, 2023 @05:34PM (#34685468)
I have hard time understanding your comment, and even your point actually.

Distribution is distribution: sharing the binary / source code of the thing.

Network protocol are not involved at all. Direct network connection to the software from the end-user is.

If a particular implementation of ANSI SQL was AGPL, and you modified and used this particular implementation and exposed it to the world, you would need to redistribute the code of this particular implementation.

But that does not change anything about ANSI SQL or about any other implementation of ANSI SQL.

Re:Voice.ai: GPL Violations with a Side of DRM by int_19h on Monday February 06, 2023 @07:52PM (#34686978)
Protocols aren't copyrightable.
Re:Voice.ai: GPL Violations with a Side of DRM by pabs3 on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @01:47AM (#34689564)
This isn't entirely correct, the trigger is on modification of the source code, the network accessibility is a sub-condition of that trigger.