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Re:Voice.ai: GPL Violations with a Side of DRM by dsr_ on Monday February 06, 2023 @04:21PM (#34684545)
Actually, it isn't. It's the same underlying principle.

All software must be paid for, with the exception of countries which have an actual public domain. Some software is paid for with money, some with acknowledgments, and some with source code sharing. Sometimes the developer demands postcards, and sometimes they demand that you not use it for evil purposes. All of these are forms of payment.

If you don't pay for it, you don't have certain rights to it.

Re:Voice.ai: GPL Violations with a Side of DRM by ilaksh on Monday February 06, 2023 @04:33PM (#34684717)
Its the same principal, but importantly it would be very easy for them to comply with attribution somewhere, but much harder to give away the source code. So its quite a critical distinction.

Lol. HN is so ridiculous sometimes.

Re:Voice.ai: GPL Violations with a Side of DRM by jraph on Monday February 06, 2023 @04:48PM (#34684921)
> Lol. HN is so ridiculous sometimes.

I hope you won't hold this against me, but I would suggest some humility here.

Let's discuss and disagree with respect, shall we?

Re:Voice.ai: GPL Violations with a Side of DRM by INGSOCIALITE on Monday February 06, 2023 @05:07PM (#34685141)
It's not harder to 'give away' the source code. It's part of the license(s) of the code you are linking to create your binary. It's not hard at all, actually. On the contrary, it's very easy.
Re:Voice.ai: GPL Violations with a Side of DRM by codeguro on Monday February 06, 2023 @05:15PM (#34685251)
> but much harder to give away the source code

On the contrary, it’s actually quite easy. They can simply upload the repository on github’s or simply tar snapshots of the source for their releases and host it themselves.

No, the issue is not that it’s hard. It’s that they don’t want to comply with copyright law. That’s an issue of criminality, not difficulty.

Re:Voice.ai: GPL Violations with a Side of DRM by smoldesu on Monday February 06, 2023 @05:15PM (#34685258)
Critical distinction to whom? The users? The developers? The judge and jury?

If you get pulled over for speeding, you can't argue away the ticket by saying "yes officer, but speeding is easy to fix relative to hitting someone". If you continue to violate the law despite being notified of your exact violation, then you're probably due in for some punishment. I don't see how that's so hard to understand.

Re:Voice.ai: GPL Violations with a Side of DRM by jeroenhd on Monday February 06, 2023 @08:35PM (#34687345)
> comply with attribution somewhere

Somewhere where the user can find it. That may require UI work.

> much harder to give away the source code

tar cf gpl-mandated-source.tar.gz ~/Projects/voice.ai; drag file into dropbox and email link.

That's the nice thing about this particular violation, you don't need to go over the source code at all! You just need to send over the source files that you shipped!

Re:Voice.ai: GPL Violations with a Side of DRM by necovek on Sunday February 19, 2023 @07:51AM (#34857177)
That's a very liberal use of the verb "pay". Payment is not the same thing as compensation, payment implies money changing hands.

"Licensing" does not have to involve any sort of payment (or even compensation). There are free software licenses with no compensation requirements at all, yet they are not covering public domain software.