Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC within a company

Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by Manuel_D on Monday February 06, 2023 @02:30PM (#34682853)

I don't think I've ever been discriminated against for being Latin. Quite the contrary, I likely had significant advantages on account of my race in university admissions. I'm not sure if I've had such advantages in tech hiring, as I don't outwardly advertise my Latin identity precisely because I don't want progressive race-realists to use it as a factor in hiring, but if they did find it it probably did help.

Unlike military service which has a discrete set of experiences and criteria, race is just something you're born with.

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Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by kodah on Monday February 06, 2023 @03:23PM (#34683775)

Every story is going to be different I think. Having tools that marginally shift our statistical outcomes makes sense to me. What doesn't make sense to me is the people who propose specific proportions as a set of diversity criteria, as it's difficult to determine what those proportions should be. At the moment I think most people are comfortable saying, "better than what they are".

It also stands out in my mind that most of these statistics rely on self-identification. I don't know if anyone's dug into the validity of self-identification.

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Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by Manuel_D on Monday February 06, 2023 @09:58PM (#34688112)

If the current representation is X% and you want it to be "better" than what they are then you're just implicitly setting a quota of (X+1)%.

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