Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC within a company

Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by busterarm on Monday February 06, 2023 @10:27AM (#34678742)

We opened a director level technology position, were encouraged to apply and then we were told explicitly at a company meeting that it was only open to a female PoC (which could only possibly be filled by an outside hire based no our org chart).

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Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by 908B64B197 on Monday February 06, 2023 @11:02AM (#34679351)

Here in America that would be completely illegal (And a lawyer somewhere would probably buy his next boat with that case!).

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Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by busterarm on Monday February 06, 2023 @11:13AM (#34679543)

We are here in America, and I was shocked when it happened. But also no lawsuit came of it, because everyone who stood something to lose buys into the idea in the first place.

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Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by nullc on Monday February 06, 2023 @11:45AM (#34680100)

It's illegal. It's also at least somewhat common now.

It's easier to leave a company for another, probably better paying, job elsewhere than it is to bring a lawsuit.

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Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by busterarm on Monday February 06, 2023 @01:29PM (#34681859)

Also if you bring a lawsuit, you'll pretty much be blacklisted from any company doing DEI, which is everyone that can pay well.

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Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by 908B64B197 on Monday February 06, 2023 @05:04PM (#34685106)

This reads like high school bullying.

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Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by tristor on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @12:31AM (#34689113)

Well, that’s basically what corporate politics is, with a bit more subtlety. American society is largely run by the same sociopaths that bullied you in high school except now they’re corporate executives and police officers with outsized real power and an education so they understand and can apply the lessons of Machiavelli.

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Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by cm2187 on Monday February 06, 2023 @12:47PM (#34681155)

I have seen in several UK firms the need for a waiver from HR to hire a white man for middle management level and up. I am not even sure it is legal, but in any case it is openly discriminatory. Imagine if you did that with any other category in the population.

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