Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom...
by XorNot on Sunday February 05, 2023 @07:58PM
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This is not remotely a safe assumption. We know interstellar travel is resource intensive, but it's within the capabilities of todays technology. It was probably doable with some effort with 1960s technology.
This is the same basic error of reasoning where people say because the moon landing happened, faking the moon landing was also possible (it wasn't: video editing technology of sufficient capability did not exist - space flight and CGI are two entirely separate lines of technical problem solving).
Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom...
by danenania on Sunday February 05, 2023 @09:47PM
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It’s not within today’s technology to actually visit an extrasolar planet. We could possibly do a flyby with a solar sail but we don’t have a way to slow down and enter the planet’s atmosphere. And even that only gets us to the relatively small number of stars that are in our immediate vicinity in any kind of human-civilization-scale timeframe.
Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom...
by hgsgm on Monday February 06, 2023 @09:37PM
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Space is 3-dimensional and astronomically, cosmically huge. Getting from a planet to space is trivial compared to getting from space to a planet.
Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom...
by juve1996 on Sunday February 05, 2023 @08:53PM
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You said you don't think aliens and magic should be the same category, but now argue that they'd be so advanced that, would it even be differentiable from magic?
Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom...
by danenania on Sunday February 05, 2023 @09:41PM
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It would be differentiable in the same way any more advanced technology than what we have now would be. It will have been created through scientific research and engineering, just like our own technology. Not understanding how something works doesn’t make it magic.
Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom...
by thefaux on Monday February 06, 2023 @01:03AM
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> It will have been created through scientific research and engineering, just like our own technology.
It seems a touch hubristic to assume that an advanced civilization with technological capabilities far exceeding our own would have used our processes and techniques to get there.
Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom...
by danenania on Monday February 06, 2023 @01:45AM
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They’d have their own processes and techniques, but on some level they’d have to be discovering the properties of reality, then using that knowledge to create vessels that could travel between stars, slow down to visit planets, and do various other tricks that seem to defy physics as we know it (based on UAP observations). To me that’s still science and engineering even if it was done in completely different ways.
If you compare our current understanding of physics to what humans knew thousands of years ago, it’s logical that the technology of an interstellar civilization would be as far beyond our understanding as a nuclear reactor would have been to the ancient Romans.