Ask HN: Employers, why do you want us back in the office?

Re:Ask HN: Employers, why do you want us back in the office? by thisarticle on Sunday February 05, 2023 @02:28PM (#34668158)

Right? Funny how C-level employees never think they’ll get outsourced. Ten or twenty years from now there will be great CTO level talent founding companies in Latam if they aren’t already. Then the whole company can operate in a cheaper country with lower taxes and benefits. Good luck competing with that in the US.

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Re:Ask HN: Employers, why do you want us back in the office? by isbvhodnvemrwvn on Sunday February 05, 2023 @02:42PM (#34668336)

They won't because they don't have anywhere near the same access to capital. There is no country even close to the US in this regard, and US salaries in software engineering are the exception, not the norm.

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Re:Ask HN: Employers, why do you want us back in the office? by thisarticle on Sunday February 05, 2023 @02:56PM (#34668534)

How much capital does someone need if wages are low and you’re building an auto-scale enabled SaaS business without an office?

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Re:Ask HN: Employers, why do you want us back in the office? by joyfylbanana on Sunday February 05, 2023 @02:59PM (#34668582)

I think the macroeconomic trend is that the work is moving slowly to poorer countries. Makes perfect sense, as in US there is a lot of money, it should mean less desire to work and more to enjoy life, meanwhile in poorer countries people have high appetite for money/work.

For example in India it used to be only outsourcing, but now they are launching their own startups as well, some quite succesful. Slowly the capital will start accumulating there as well. And that is a good thing, for global inequality.

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Re:Ask HN: Employers, why do you want us back in the office? by moneywoes on Sunday February 05, 2023 @02:56PM (#34668536)

Why not have the ceo in latam as well? What’s the US advantage?

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Re:Ask HN: Employers, why do you want us back in the office? by peyton on Sunday February 05, 2023 @03:15PM (#34668790)

Access to capital.

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Re:Ask HN: Employers, why do you want us back in the office? by thisarticle on Sunday February 05, 2023 @08:24PM (#34672029)

So… have the capital moved. Can’t be that difficult and VCs will make even more money. Win win.

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Re:Ask HN: Employers, why do you want us back in the office? by phil21 on Sunday February 05, 2023 @03:29PM (#34668971)

> Right? Funny how C-level employees never think they’ll get outsourced.

Plenty C level people know this is the eventual outcome. They just also know that the runway is likely to extend beyond their working career because they control most business decisions for the foreseeable future.

They still operate on a relationship basis with ownership/capital while managing the company on a Netflix performance model for everyone else. Those relationships are likely to stay in place until both sides age out of the industry.

I've worked with a number of C level folks hired into companies from low cost regions and they have all been utterly stellar. This is coming, just not for the current generation of senior execs.

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Re:Ask HN: Employers, why do you want us back in the office? by 0xB31B1B on Sunday February 05, 2023 @07:58PM (#34671826)

This is correct. Work like a dog and like you have a target on your back, because you do, and you’ll be safe for as long as possible, maybe even until retirement.

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Re:Ask HN: Employers, why do you want us back in the office? by lampington on Sunday February 05, 2023 @04:37PM (#34669726)

Lower taxes? Which countries are you thinking of? (Genuinely interested not a rhetorical question; IME many poorer countries have higher taxes, in percentage terms.)

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