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Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom... by dilippkumar on Sunday February 05, 2023 @01:10PM (#34667179)
Aha! You’re the person I’ve been searching for.

A person who has seen something that is incredible (literally) and has a hard time following up because of a complete absence of data/evidence to back up your claim.

Going back to your experience, what tools do you wish we as a society had that would help us document your experience?

Did you try to document your experience? What were the barriers you encountered? If you were to document it, where would you go to document it?

Ultimately, we need a civilian infrastructure of sensors, cameras etc pointing up at the sky to independently verify UAP. The first step in such an effort is some sort of statistical data that shows how often this occurs.

With such data, we can build a realistic null hypothesis: (x number of cameras looking at y area of the sky for z years should find 0 UFOs if the null hypothesis is true)

It’s impossible for a civilian effort to even begin to accumulate the data to make even vague guesses on what x, y and z should be.

And so, identifying the barriers that you encountered to document your experience is actually kinda important.

Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom... by 3pac on Sunday February 05, 2023 @02:19PM (#34668003)
I did not care to talk about it with even my more open-minded friends at the time, and even now I feel so lame posting about it. Maybe if I'd had a full-frame camera with super telephoto lens on a stable platform. I mentally went through possibilities like: Was that a jet liner? No, it was much larger and holding still above the ground and shaped nothing like a jet liner. Was it a dirigible? No, it was perfectly still in the wind. I thought, huh, that happened, that's such bullshit, I want to get on with my life now.
Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom... by llamaLord on Sunday February 05, 2023 @03:48PM (#34669170)
Can't tell if being sarcastic or not... But the vast majority of us carry an at least 12 megapixel camera in our pocket literally everywhere we go now...
Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom... by NoZebra120vClip on Sunday February 05, 2023 @04:32PM (#34669672)
Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom... by stevenhuang on Sunday February 05, 2023 @04:39PM (#34669754)
The mystery of the lack of good footage in the age of smartphones is less mysterious when one considers that perhaps the phenomenon itself is intelligent.

And in fact if one considers witness testimony, that's what it seems to be.

Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom... by nequo on Sunday February 05, 2023 @07:31PM (#34671594)
If the phenomenon is intelligent, it does not appear to be concerned by crowds seeing it. If the 1952 UFO sighting over Washington DC[1] is to be believed, this phenomenon exposed itself to millions of humans twice over the federal capital. Another example is the 2006 sighting at O'Hare in Chicago[2] where the vessel appeared to ascend through the clouds and leave a hole in them.

In light of that, what is puzzling is that although most of the Americas is populated by humans who have carried portable video cameras in their pockets for over a decade, we do not see any visual evidence of such public phenomena. The reported sightings are nearly exclusively from pilots (but never smartphone-carrying passengers) and the military.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington,_D.C.,_UFO_inc...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_O%27Hare_International_Ai...

Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom... by suddenclarity on Sunday February 05, 2023 @05:48PM (#34670576)
This is my opinion as well but it should be mentioned that wide angle lenses on phones are quite terrible at picking up small things, especially in low light. I tried once 2-3 years ago when I noticed a bright light late at night from my bedroom window. I'm 100% convinced it had a reasonable explanation but it did bother me that I spent several minutes without getting a decent image/video of something my eyes could see clearly. Since then, I'm a bit more understanding that phones doesn't capture everything but with that said - there are still a ton of DSLRs and telescopes. Unfortunately I didn't have the hindsight of fetching mine.
Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom... by cameronh90 on Sunday February 05, 2023 @06:31PM (#34671011)
My current phone (Pixel 7 Pro) has a camera so good that I frequently use it to see things at a distance that I can't make out with my eyes, or to see in the dark when I can't.

However, it does have instances where the images it produces are well below what I can see. I assume there's a large amount of AI clean-up going on that makes it do odd things when presented with odd inputs.

Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom... by marginalia_nu on Sunday February 05, 2023 @06:56PM (#34671265)
To be fair, you can't even get a decent picture of the moon with a camera phone.
Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom... by twic on Sunday February 05, 2023 @07:34PM (#34671623)
Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom... by nradov on Sunday February 05, 2023 @11:44PM (#34673446)
Cell phone cameras generally have terrible dynamic range and have very little optical magnification. Even with a 12 megapixel sensor, when you take a picture of a distant object in the sky you typically end up with just a blurry dot.
Re:As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anom... by dilippkumar on Monday February 06, 2023 @02:30AM (#34674411)
> But the vast majority of us carry an at least 12 megapixel camera in our pocket literally everywhere we go now

Here’s an experiment for you to try out. The next time you see a regular airplane up in the sky, pull out your phone and click a picture of it.

You’ll discover a couple of things very quickly. First, most of us do not walk around looking up at the sky. Second, 35k feet up in the air is really really far - at a bit over 6 miles away (in the best case when it is directly overhead and is closest to you), things look tiny on your phone. If you try to magnify even 10x using a phone that’s able to, you’ll discover how impossibly hard it is to track a moving object with 10x magnification.

Once you do this experiment, you can reconsider how likely that a UFO will be photographed by a person with a smartphone.