Mental Illness: The Men Cry in the Dark (2022)

Re:Mental Illness: The Men Cry in the Dark (2022) by brhsagain on Saturday February 04, 2023 @10:42PM (#34661591)

I think there's clearly a difference in perception between crying as a show of strength vs weakness. My intuition is that it's strong if you're crying after "coming back from the battlefield", after a long buildup period of stoicism and having given a fight all you've got, and weak if you're crying as a matter of constantly giving into whatever you're feeling in the moment. The examples in your link are as far on the "strong" end of the spectrum as they could be.

It would falsify this if you found examples of our culture supporting guys just going through their daily lives and crying as an accessible reaction to random things that make them feel bad, almost as a sort of banality. (I think this is the bar, since culturally we're okay with women doing this.)

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Re:Mental Illness: The Men Cry in the Dark (2022) by tptacek on Saturday February 04, 2023 @10:46PM (#34661618)

No, hold on: like I said, many of these examples aren't shows of strength, they're shows of vulnerability. You're dismissing them because you've concluded they're legitimate, which is a special pleading argument.

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Re:Mental Illness: The Men Cry in the Dark (2022) by brhsagain on Saturday February 04, 2023 @10:50PM (#34661644)

Hmm, okay. I was about to say that there's an interesting question of whether "vulnerability is a kind of strength," but I'm scrolling up and seeing that the original claim was that both weakness and vulnerability are unacceptable. I would agree there are some narrow forms of vulnerability displays by men that our culture finds acceptable, so I'll concede this one.

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