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Re:State Farm says 105 Kia, Hyundai models ‘ineligible’ for ... by krolden on Friday February 03, 2023 @11:18AM (#34643148)
They won't do a recall unless forced by regulators. The sheer number of cars without immobilizers and the amount of money/work that would go in to installing them in cars that didn't originally have them would be quite crazy.

I hate Korean cars but this really isn't on kia or Hyundai since the existing motor vehicle import laws in the usa do not require cars to have immobilizers installed. pretty much every other import and domestic car has been installing them by default for over 20 years.

Re:State Farm says 105 Kia, Hyundai models ‘ineligible’ for ... by jerf on Friday February 03, 2023 @11:27AM (#34643322)
"They won't do a recall unless forced by regulators."

Forced to by insurance companies, or forced to by bad press like this, can do the trick too.

I don't know about these states but I live in a state where insurance is mandatory. I don't know if there are flip sides of the laws mandating insurers to insure, but if not, if the entire industry in my state followed suit for these cars, it would effectively take the cars off the roads. I can promise you the manufacturers would take note of such an outcome.

Re:State Farm says 105 Kia, Hyundai models ‘ineligible’ for ... by brookst on Friday February 03, 2023 @11:53AM (#34643770)
Theft insurance is mandatory in your state?
Re:State Farm says 105 Kia, Hyundai models ‘ineligible’ for ... by jerf on Friday February 03, 2023 @12:38PM (#34644711)
I interpreted the article as saying that all insurance for these cars is terminated:

"Starting Jan. 25, State Farm Insurance agents in Louisiana are no longer doing business with owners of 105 Kia and Hyundai models that have been blacklisted because they are vulnerable to theft, employees told WWL-TV."

Scanning over it again, it still seems the correct interpretation of the text as written. But it is an easy mistake for a journalist to make, if you know that it's theft-only from some other article then I'd be wrong about my state comment.

The idea that insurance can drive this would still stand though. An entire customer base being told they can't insure will get attention. It would need to be an industry-wide thing, though, or the customer base may just change companies.

Re:State Farm says 105 Kia, Hyundai models ‘ineligible’ for ... by 83 on Friday February 03, 2023 @12:01PM (#34643951)
Jerf is in Michigan (Ann Arbor). Michigan does not require comprehensive afaict, only liability.
Re:State Farm says 105 Kia, Hyundai models ‘ineligible’ for ... by albedoa on Friday February 03, 2023 @11:40AM (#34643543)
I must be misunderstanding your second paragraph. If pretty much every other import car has had immobilizers installed by default for over 20 years despite facing no requirement to do so, then why isn't this on Kia or Hyundai?