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Re:Alphabet Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2022 Re... by graeme on Thursday February 02, 2023 @04:36PM (#34633456)
Yes, the question is how do the websites get a return.

If it’s like a featured snippet, should work great. “Here’s an answer, read more here”

If the LLM Hoovers up all the knowledge and doesn’t show where it got it, then there is no incentive to produce the knowledge

I imagine Google is acutely aware of this, they have a symbiotic relationship with site owners. But we’ll see.

There is some sort of issue here not well addressed by copyright

Re:Alphabet Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2022 Re... by sounds on Thursday February 02, 2023 @04:41PM (#34633549)
Really I think the question is around "symbiotic relationship."

Google has failed to win decisively in the search result ranking arms race. Concrete example: sites that rip from stackoverflow have been ranking higher than stackoverflow in google search results. Other search engines fare worse.

If Google trained a discriminator that penalized these practices I think their search product would dramatically improve and the web as a whole might benefit - although tabloid article farms might sue.

Re:Alphabet Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2022 Re... by jstx1 on Thursday February 02, 2023 @04:52PM (#34633709)
> Google has failed to win decisively in the search result ranking arms race.

They have 84% market share which seems like winning in all the ways businesses care about, regardless of how it ranks your stackoverflow searches.

Re:Alphabet Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2022 Re... by luckylion on Thursday February 02, 2023 @05:37PM (#34634254)
The ranking arms race isn't against competitors, it's against SEOs.
Re:Alphabet Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2022 Re... by soiler on Thursday February 02, 2023 @05:51PM (#34634426)
That's just applying a completely different and irrelevant metric to dismiss the point of the previous poster.

The arms race of "fast trash" websites vs quality search results is not being won by Google or anyone else as of today. Google having a business model that doesn't even incentivize them to win that race =/= Google not losing that race. It's closer to them giving up in defeat, which is a loss for all of us (many times over).

Re:Alphabet Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2022 Re... by jonathankoren on Thursday February 02, 2023 @04:52PM (#34633711)
They can sue all they want, but they don’t have a leg to stand on. There is no right to demand be ranked highly or even at all.
Re:Alphabet Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2022 Re... by sounds on Friday February 03, 2023 @12:47PM (#34644873)