Re:Google layoffs Jan 20, 2023 – California WARN public records
by ma2rten on Thursday February 02, 2023 @03:38AM
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At Google it is actually common to have directors or VPs who don't have reports for a while, but we are talking about people who are ICs already. For each management position there is an equivalent IC position at Google with similar pay. I believe L9 would be a senior director.
Re:Google layoffs Jan 20, 2023 – California WARN public records
by CydeWeys on Thursday February 02, 2023 @08:49AM
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From what I've seen these senior people with no reports at the moment (or those with org sizes too small) were hardest hit in the layoffs, simply because of the misfortune of bad timing.
Re:Google layoffs Jan 20, 2023 – California WARN public records
by CydeWeys on Thursday February 02, 2023 @08:48AM
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It sounds like you're describing people getting a different job at a different company? That's not the same thing at all.
When I joined Google I was "demoting" myself from TL/M equivalent to mere L4 SWE. The much higher pay didn't make it feel like a demotion though.
maybe not in faangs, but I've seen CTOs and directors downshift to ICs in multiple startups and public tech companies. Honestly kicking them out instead sounds like a huge waste, if the person can make solid contributions in a different, maybe less intense, role, why not let them?