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Re:Python's “Disappointing” Superpowers by pdonis on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @04:19PM (#34617934)
The benefits of typing for certain kinds of applications.

Many people in the Python community simply aren't writing those kinds of applications. They're writing applications where typing is not a benefit, it's a hindrance, so they don't use it, and Python makes that easy.

Re:Python's “Disappointing” Superpowers by zerodensity on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @04:39PM (#34618230)
Could you give an example of a type of application where typing is a hindrance?
Re:Python's “Disappointing” Superpowers by randomluck040 on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @04:45PM (#34618320)
Not a hindrance but I work with image data a lot. Usually what comes in is any kind of Numpy array and what comes out at the end is either statistics or a Numpy array. I try to type hint everywhere I can but I feel stupid doing so because all I do is work with arrays. Maybe I’m not proficient/knowledgeable enough though so take it with a grain of salt.
Re:Python's “Disappointing” Superpowers by zerodensity on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @05:04PM (#34618579)
If it's truly "any" kind of Numpy array typing won't help much there I agree.

But often it can be helpful to know the shape of the input and the shape of the output. Eg are we working with a 2D,3D or ND array.

Before 3.11 it was not simple (possible?) To type this. But https://peps.python.org/pep-0646/ makes it possible. If somewhat clunky on the definition side.

Re:Python's “Disappointing” Superpowers by spookylukey on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @05:05PM (#34618596)
I did a fairly detailed breakdown regarding the Python library Parsy: https://lukeplant.me.uk/blog/posts/python-type-hints-parsy-c...

This is not to make the general claim "Typing is a hindrance in parsing applications", or anything close. It's saying "the current static type system(s) available in Python would have made this Python library much worse".

Re:Python's “Disappointing” Superpowers by arcturus17 on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @05:11PM (#34618670)
I’m also part of the Python community and I use typing extensively. I find them useful for app development but also in scripting. There must be at least be a good dozen of us seeing the popularity of mypy, pyright and the fact that the language designers saw fit to add them, too.