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Re:Astonishing regularity in learning rate among college stu... by SamoyedFurFluff on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @10:17AM (#34611623)
I’m kind of confused because I’ve never heard of “some people are smarter than others” to be a eugenicist position. That’s more for stuff like “we should have IQ minimums to become parents” or something.
Re:Astonishing regularity in learning rate among college stu... by cjbgkagh on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @10:27AM (#34611797)
At the time of eugenics “some people are smarter than others” was self evident. Now we’re entering an era where “all inequality is due to systemic racism” where the act of finding a cause that isn’t systemic racism is in effect acting in support of that very system. Which makes it unfalsifiable and thus not a theory but a new religion.
Re:Astonishing regularity in learning rate among college stu... by jeffbee on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @10:35AM (#34611926)
You’re constructing a straw-man argument. Nobody believes the thing you think you are refuting.
Re:Astonishing regularity in learning rate among college stu... by cjbgkagh on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @11:05AM (#34612428)
The book The Genetic Lottery: Why DNA Matters for Social Equality by Kathryn Paige Harden does. It’s written by a progressive for progressives. It’s not logically sound and admits to taking such a position on faith in the service of being anti-racist.
Re:Astonishing regularity in learning rate among college stu... by jeffbee on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @11:11AM (#34612557)
Your reading comprehension needs a LOT of work if you think the central idea of that book is that there are not differences between people. The entire point of that book is that mental abilities are stochastic.
Re:Astonishing regularity in learning rate among college stu... by cjbgkagh on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @11:24AM (#34612814)
I assumed you were stating that no-one believes the second point not that no-one believes the first point.

Yes, she takes the view that individually some people are smarter than others due to purely random factors, a combinations of variants, she also takes the view that the important variants for intelligence are basically equally distributed among races. Thus the inter racial group differences must be due to racism. The book is an attempt to split the difference and in doing so spells out the explicit biases that must be taken on faith. Which is what makes it interesting. The book as gotten quite a bit of push back on the "some people are smarter than others" aspect which demonstrates that there exist people that believe that some people are not inherently smarter than others. I should have been more explicit on my second message but your response was trite and I assumed in bad faith.

Re:Astonishing regularity in learning rate among college stu... by korroziya on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @10:23AM (#34611717)
Re:Astonishing regularity in learning rate among college stu... by SketchySeaBeast on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @10:51AM (#34612190)
> While his hope was that everybody was equal, he added, "people who have to deal with black employees find this is not true".

I mean, that's pretty clearly racism.

Re:Astonishing regularity in learning rate among college stu... by bee_rider on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @11:23AM (#34612797)
This is why I don’t take anyone who says “you can’t talk about X anymore” seriously.