Re:Do We Live in a Society Without a Counterculture?
by YurgenJurgensen on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @07:36AM
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If your culture is well-known enough and seen as desirable enough that you start having to no-true-scotsman to differentiate between the corporate poseurs and the true believers, it's a pretty strong sign that you're not a counterculture anymore. People don't try to fake having low cultural status.
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Re:Do We Live in a Society Without a Counterculture?
by yadoomerta on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @07:44AM
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imo that's the problem - everything gets corporate poseurs so quickly now
could just be i'm out of touch and the countercultures have successfully hidden from me tho
Re:Do We Live in a Society Without a Counterculture?
by thebooktocome on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @08:13AM
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> People don’t try to fake having low cultural status.
They do. One of the most successful directors of all time built his career telling stories about faking low cultural status.
Perhaps that’s too abstract. But if people don’t fake low culture, then what is Hillbilly Elegy?
Re:Do We Live in a Society Without a Counterculture?
by YurgenJurgensen on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @08:31AM
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That's faking low financial or political status in order to obtain cultural status. If the rich and powerful are generally hated, you don't become popular by flaunting your wealth but by distancing yourself from it.
Re:Do We Live in a Society Without a Counterculture?
by goodpoint on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:12AM
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> it's a pretty strong sign that you're not a counterculture anymore
The very opposite.
Re:Do We Live in a Society Without a Counterculture?
by harimau777 on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:19AM
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I don't think it's a "no-true-scotsman" to say that they would need to support the core goals of the movement in a meaningful way.