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Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by igbk on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @06:05AM (#34608989)
I suspect the extend and target of postmortem blame varies considerably from culture to culture. An anecdote from the railroad traffic between Germany and Denmark:

"[In 2019, a DB Cargo freight train in Denmark caused an accident with a passenger train on its way to Copenhagen after a truck trailer flew off the freight train due to high winds. The German side was keen to find out who was responsible at the lowest level, i.e. the wagon inspector who had not adequately secured the freight on the freight train. The Danish side didn't care, the local authorities were concerned with structural responsibility. Not who caused the accident, but why could it happen! So in Denmark, the motto is: the process is the cause.]"

- https://www.wiwo.de/unternehmen/dienstleister/zugunglueck-be... (German source)

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Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by mieko on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @06:14AM (#34609043)
> keen to find out who was responsible at the lowest level

It's funny how profit flows up, but legal responsibility trickles down.

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Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by bell-cot on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @07:57AM (#34609785)
There are some old stereotypes of detail-obsessed Germans - far too busy measuring the growth rings of a tree with micrometers, and wondering why those are so close together - but never noticing that the tree is small, and growing in a well-shaded part of a large forest.
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Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by egberts1 on Thursday February 02, 2023 @05:15AM (#34624591)
The absolute worse case of "not seeing the forest for the tree".
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Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by SnowHill9902 on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @06:30AM (#34609127)
Both are important.
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Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by aeharding on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @08:43AM (#34610262)
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/There-Are-No-Accident...
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Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by CSMastermind on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @11:40AM (#34613114)
Matt Parker of Youtube fame also wrote a book called Humble Pi: When Math Goes Wrong in the Real World which covers several post-mortems from the engineering space.

I found it interesting that he compared and contrasted the airline industry where failures are seen as systemic (don't blame the pilot, blame the system) and the medical industry where failures are typically seen as having personal liability (blame the surgeon).

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/610964/humble-pi-by...

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Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by tokai on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:46AM (#34611146)
Not that surprising. The wagon inspector was a dane in denmark. The organizational responsibility was on german leaders in a german company. In the end nothing happened.
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