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Re:A Midcentury Bender: Revisiting Mad Men by srge on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @12:48PM (#34598638)
Or maybe the false dichotomy between good and bad people is boring? People like the Sopranos and Mad Men for being smart and subtle fictions.

Works of art actually don’t have to pass moral judgment or teach so called values to the audience.

Re:A Midcentury Bender: Revisiting Mad Men by jassyr on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @05:21PM (#34603143)
>Works of art actually don’t have to pass moral judgment or teach so called values to the audience.

Thanks for this, I was trying to put exactly this into words. I actually find Draper refreshing, he's not so much evil as he is a flawed human, as we all are. Blessed with good looks, charisma, charm and cursed with a broken childhood, insecurity, and a secret past.

Re:A Midcentury Bender: Revisiting Mad Men by andy800 on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @11:23PM (#34606322)
Nobody is asking for, or expecting, moral lessons. That's what Full House or Growing Pains were for. The point is that, especially upon a second viewing, Don does so few positive, admirable, or generous things and so many selfish, nasty, hurtful things. It still doesn't make him a "bad person" like Joan's rapey husband, it just demonstrates that Don is innately an asshole, a very big one.
Re:A Midcentury Bender: Revisiting Mad Men by yywwbbn on Saturday February 04, 2023 @05:00AM (#34653228)
> Don does so few positive, admirable, or generous things

True, but he still seems to do these things quite a bit more often than almost every other character on the show. They are all pretty selfish