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Re:Amazon Is Selling Its 29-Acre Bay Area Property as Return... by pandaman on Monday January 30, 2023 @07:01PM (#34588629)
Companies actually track productivity. WFH had been around for a long time, treated as a perk. If it's been improving productivity it had been mandatory already. If it's been neutral - it had been encouraged (due to additional expenses on the office environment). It's pretty obvious by the push to RTO that it have been neither of the above.
Re:Amazon Is Selling Its 29-Acre Bay Area Property as Return... by nkozyra on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @07:52AM (#34609753)
It doesn't always improve productively. It doesn't work for some people.

But a lot of the resistance is less about productivity and more about sunk costs and not fully understanding a relatively new world. Work was done in the office exclusively for so long that it will be hard to change the way some people think about it.

Re:Amazon Is Selling Its 29-Acre Bay Area Property as Return... by pandaman on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @08:19AM (#34609978)
Work has not been done in the office exclusively, we had WFH for a long while. The only thing new now is that it's been mandatory for a while so the productivity data is rock solid.
Re:Amazon Is Selling Its 29-Acre Bay Area Property as Return... by nkozyra on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @08:58AM (#34610456)
Where is this rock solid data?
Re:Amazon Is Selling Its 29-Acre Bay Area Property as Return... by pandaman on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:11AM (#34610626)
At the companies that had employees in the states that went into lockdowns and had to switch to WFH.
Re:Amazon Is Selling Its 29-Acre Bay Area Property as Return... by nkozyra on Sunday February 05, 2023 @03:50PM (#34669199)
Your link doesn't appear to be working.
Re:Amazon Is Selling Its 29-Acre Bay Area Property as Return... by pandaman on Monday February 06, 2023 @08:18AM (#34676871)
I have not given any links. Real life is not Reddit, sometimes you need to use your brain to figure things out and get ahead.
Re:Amazon Is Selling Its 29-Acre Bay Area Property as Return... by nkozyra on Monday February 06, 2023 @10:10AM (#34678398)
Huh, generally when people talk about the large volume of data that's out there they'd have ... something to point to?

Guess not.

Re:Amazon Is Selling Its 29-Acre Bay Area Property as Return... by pandaman on Monday February 06, 2023 @07:13PM (#34686557)
Yeah, like for example when they talk about NSA collecting data all the time on this same website... Performance drop figures is not something a company would like to publicize for everyone to know, it's usually shared internally but I guess not in your case (which is understandable if you are an IC in a big public co, anything shared with everyone in such an environment goes public in minutes).
Re:Amazon Is Selling Its 29-Acre Bay Area Property as Return... by nkozyra on Monday February 06, 2023 @07:37PM (#34686808)
So to recap ... there's a bevy of "rock solid" performance data but you can't link to it because it's guarded like NSA data. But you're either privy to it or just gleaned it by using your brain and not Reddit.

This is really what you're going with?

You know it'd be perfectly fine if you just said "it's my opinion." It's certainly a whole lot less eye rolling than this story you're selling.

Re:Amazon Is Selling Its 29-Acre Bay Area Property as Return... by pandaman on Monday February 06, 2023 @08:20PM (#34687208)
There is no need to be upset to the point of making up quotes, if you don't even know that your performance is being measured you are obviously not in a position to change WFH/RTO policy anywhere so just accept whatever is coming to you, being snarky will only make it hurt more.
Re:Amazon Is Selling Its 29-Acre Bay Area Property as Return... by nkozyra on Monday February 06, 2023 @08:58PM (#34687544)
To be clear, I would have been really interested in data about this, particularly if it were "rock solid" (which is a real quote, btw, not made up).

But you're clearly just blowing a lot of smoke. You don't have that data.

Not supplying any actual support was a tip-off, but there's little doubt once you started with snark "Real life is not Reddit, sometimes you need to use your brain to figure things out and get ahead" (real quote, not made up) and then trying to project it onto me.

Like I said, I don't care if your answer is "it's just my opinion that WFH is less productive" or "I've heard about data" but you don't have anything to support what you're claiming.

And doing the "you're mad" thing is the last refuge for a broken argument. Do better.