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Re:Smaller, Cheaper Flow Batteries Throw Out Decades-Old Des... by nl on Saturday January 28, 2023 @06:55PM (#34563282)
The times when there is insufficient wind and insufficient solar somewhere within transmission range of Europe are so small (hours) that this long term energy storage isn't something anyone is trying to build.

Better long distance transmission infrastructure is a much better solution to this.

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Re:Smaller, Cheaper Flow Batteries Throw Out Decades-Old Des... by ilyt on Saturday January 28, 2023 @09:39PM (#34564341)
Winter happens at same time in Europe. Unless we're talking shipping all the way from Africa
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Re:Smaller, Cheaper Flow Batteries Throw Out Decades-Old Des... by lovemenot on Saturday January 28, 2023 @11:15PM (#34564856)
Offshore wind is already at large scale in N. Europe and will continue to add much more capacity.

Winds are stronger in winter time.

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Re:Smaller, Cheaper Flow Batteries Throw Out Decades-Old Des... by nl on Sunday January 29, 2023 @12:00AM (#34565105)
Winter is excellent for wind power.
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Re:Smaller, Cheaper Flow Batteries Throw Out Decades-Old Des... by hollerith on Saturday January 28, 2023 @11:14PM (#34564854)
Until something adversarial happens to your transmission infrastructure similar to what happened to Nord Stream 1 and 2 a few months ago.
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Re:Smaller, Cheaper Flow Batteries Throw Out Decades-Old Des... by nl on Sunday January 29, 2023 @12:01AM (#34565112)
Yes, black swan events happen for all kind of power sources.

Depending on your risk tolerance you overbuild to reduce that. Same as with all types of energy production.

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Re:Smaller, Cheaper Flow Batteries Throw Out Decades-Old Des... by adrianN on Sunday January 29, 2023 @03:25AM (#34566045)
There is a tradeoff between overprovisioning renewables, improving transmission networks and storage. Where the cheapest solution lies is not clear yet.
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